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    What are your thoughts on euthanasia?As long as the individual involved has either a living will or is mentally capable enough to express their wants, I have no problems with this.

    Suicide in general?If people don't want to live, this is their choice and my opinion is that society doesn't have the right to interfere in their decision.

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    Death is always a tragedy and is not something to be hastened. When people celebrate at a funeral, it is the life they celebrate not the death.

    When I was working at a university a few years ago I knew a kid with Cerebral Palsy who was wheel chair bound, couldn't speak and couldn't feed himself. He was one of the happiest guys I've ever met and he was working on a bachelor's in engineering.

    Most people are touched and encouraged when they hear of someone who overcame a brain injury, was born with some debilitating disorder, or has developed a terminal illness and yet lives with a sense of courage and purpose.

    We are shamed by their strength.

    And if the strength of such people should be admired is it not clear that something is terribly wrong when someone responds to such conditions with hopelessness and a desire for suicide?

    If two people can have the exact same experience of horrific loss of ability or enduring pain and yet each responds in a completely different manner then it seems to me one of them must be delusional. I submit that it is the hopeless person that is delusional. That there is always a reason to live.

    Just as a family can bring support and strength to someone weakened by a disaster we as a society can provide the support of our laws to the weak and the helpless.

    Moreover, assisted suicide should never be allowed because it is impossible to maintain safeguards against undue pressure that may be placed on the weak and frail.

    Last summer the British Parliament rejected an assisted suicide bill. The most influential speeches came from quadriplegic and severely disabled voting members of the House of Lords who spoke out against the bill. It was clear to them that fellow members of their disabled community would be at risk of succumbing to the evil wishes of family members and others that may benefit from the hastening of their death. Not to mention the potential pressure put on the disabled by society as a whole and influential public figures.

    Baroness Warnock, a proponent of the bill, has claimed "If you're demented, you're wasting people's lives – your family's lives – and you're wasting the resources of the National Health Service."

    That sentiment should be repugnant on face to anyone that has served the disabled or has family that is disabled.
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    I am in favor of euthanasia. I have a problem with people who have a problem with euthanasia.

    Imagine this.
    There are so many people in this world.
    A very little percentage of them, suffer debilitating accidents, from which they cannot recover. If they want to get euthanasiated, they should be allowed.

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    I think anybody who wants to check out for any reason should be allowed. I am scared of being old, poor and sick, which is just about inevitable unless I commit suicide at some point. I wish I didn't have to live with that hanging over my head. Although I suppose Living Wills (which I have) are of some assistance. Still not very good assurance.

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    I am for it as long as it is not mandatory nor semi mandatory and there is a reasonable waiting period and psychological evaluation.

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    I'm all for it, only if it is absolutely necessary.

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    I don't want some one else wiping my ass, so yeah, I plan to check out before I lose my mental and psychical capacities. No old folks home for me, thanks. And my rellies can squabble over my leavings at the funeral. It seems my wishes will not be observed after death, so there's no point in bequeathing my assets to charity. Sorry, my cynical streak is showing.
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    If you wanna be dead, go for it.


    Personally I think people who are suicidal should consider the possibility that if they hate their lives but are capable of providing the basics (food, shelter) for themselves, that they could readily spend more time doing service oriented work.

    Might as well be useful and miserable.

    It wouldn't be surprising if that led to a sharp decrease in suicidal thoughts and behavior, too.
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    Yep, they oughta just buck up, pull themselves up by their bootstraps, think happy thoughts for god's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamboo View Post
    If you wanna be dead, go for it.


    Personally I think people who are suicidal should consider the possibility that if they hate their lives but are capable of providing the basics (food, shelter) for themselves, that they could readily spend more time doing service oriented work.

    Might as well be useful and miserable.

    It wouldn't be surprising if that led to a sharp decrease in suicidal thoughts and behavior, too.
    Nice, but isn't this thread mainly talking about those who can't, or are face with the likely hood they won't be able too in the near future.


    But I'll give credit where credit is due...studies have shown this does aid in the treatment of mild to moderate depression. Helping others gives people a sense of well being, but generally these people aren't sitting on thier arses doing nothing anyway.
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