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    Yes folks the only real purpose behind religion(s) is to bash gays. :rolli:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Yes folks the only real purpose behind religion(s) is to bash gays. :rolli:
    Yay! I'm going to make t-shirts and sell them and give you half the profit, partner!

    ... well, maybe just 33%. After all, you only created the slogan; I had to do all the footwork.

    Next comes coffee mugs, turnip twiddlers, bumper stickers, and butt tattooes!
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    I could actually imagine an ironic butt tattoo that said "No butt-f*cking here" or something along those lines.

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    Religions reject it because it doesn't seem to flow with the natural order of things, a particularly important distinction in the old world when people had a much more limited view on the nature of the world we live in.

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    Homosexuality was considered mental illness until 1986.
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    For older people, I can understand how something they've been counseled against their entire lives and their parents and grandparents before them, is now all of a sudden not even "sick" or "wrong" but completely ok, healthy and normal, even enough to raise children. It's a huge leap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltyred View Post
    For older people, I can understand how something they've been counseled against their entire lives and their parents and grandparents before them, is now all of a sudden not even "sick" or "wrong" but completely ok, healthy and normal, even enough to raise children. It's a huge leap.
    Not for anyone capable of thinking for themselves, it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words of Ivory View Post
    Not for anyone capable of thinking for themselves, it isn't.
    Ummm.... actually, yeah it is.

    Not everyone keys off the internal by nature.

    A lot of people are designed to key off external source and not trust the inner voice.

    And please don't think I'm making excuses for them, because I've been bitten in the butt badly (and continue to be) by those sorts of people, I'm pissed off right now at some family members for this sort of behavior in recent circumstances... but I've become pretty aware that it's extremely difficult for some types of people to look at situations in new ways until there's enough social pressure to force them to do so.

    Your sort of comment is about in lines with their extreme notion that gay people can just "stop being gay and be happy being straight."
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    If you've been taught something your entire life that everyone agrees is common knowledge, and you've never been exposed to the thing itself, how are you going to know any different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    And please don't think I'm making excuses for them, because I've been bitten in the butt badly (and continue to be) by those sorts of people, I'm pissed off right now at some family members for this sort of behavior in recent circumstances... but I've become pretty aware that it's extremely difficult for some types of people to look at situations in new ways until there's enough social pressure to force them to do so.
    Whilst I'm normally completely fine with people having their flaws or their own ways of approaching the many, many things that come our ways in life, this is one of the very few exceptions where I draw the line.

    Ignorance is a choice. I've never considered "pressure" to be a valid excuse for not questioning things.

    If a person is ignorant of something, they have two choice 1) Educate themselves about the subject it is that they're ignorant about, or 2) Wilfully remain ignorant. The latter I find deplorable.

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