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    Its the story. Its the plot. Because i'm the main character, right?
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    there are basically 6 modes that people live in.

    1. past negative - remember only the bad things (catholic)
    2. part positive - remember only the good things (catholic)
    3. present fated - no use planning, it's all predetermined anyway
    4. present hedonist - towards pleasure, away from pain (separate from epicurean hedonist, possibly eastern thought: the middle way)
    5. future goal oriented - work now, play later (puritan)
    6. future afterlife - life after death and dream of that. (abrahamic religions, christian, muslim, jewish, etc)
    I know for a fact that this isn't wholly accurate.
    What is now?
    It's whatever you want it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Yes, ReflecttcelfeR.

    It is the ultimate constant.
    Eternity.
    There is no other eternity.

    Krishnamurti used to describe his experience of the now in the beginning of each chapter of his book.
    He said the mind obstructs the now.
    Apropos why do we live now?
    Do we live now?
    Caesar lived in the past?
    Caesar lived now if we do.

    The mind obstructs, and asks: Caesar lived in his now?
    As if past were in the now.
    So the vital error is associating the past with now because the now is what it is, a contradiction in other words because the past and the future are the opposite of the present so by saying that one exists in another is a paradox... It brings to mind a philosophy that says that you can only describe what something truly is by saying that it is what it is, hahaha. Like describing grass as green is wrong, when grass isn't green, it's grass. The color of grass is grass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    So the vital error is associating the past with now because the now is what it is, a contradiction in other words because the past and the future are the opposite of the present so by saying that one exists in another is a paradox... It brings to mind a philosophy that says that you can only describe what something truly is by saying that it is what it is, hahaha. Like describing grass as green is wrong, when grass isn't green, it's grass. The color of grass is grass.

    The colour of grass is grass.
    Skeat said green is the colour of growing herbs.
    To grow > Indo-European root: GHAR.
    Green: > GHAR

    Semantics is about what is.
    Etymology is about the past.
    What is, is here.
    What is here?
    The semantics of the past is here.

    Etymology is about semantics. A paradox.
    The riddle of the now is solved.
    Thank to you, ReflecttcelfeR.
    A good job.

    An analogy.
    The number is irrespective of the sign of the number.
    The sign is plus or minus or X.
    Do not look at the sign.
    Look at the number.
    The sign is second hand.

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    You can't know a thing 'til you immerse yourself in it.

    Now is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    You can't know a thing 'til you immerse yourself in it.

    Now is.
    A sound point.
    Who knows? The spectator of the thing .. or the thing?
    Only the thing knows.
    If it were otherwise the spectator would not spectate the thing.

    The sign does not rule the number.
    The number rules the sign.

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    now:
    its an subjective perception of what is happening at this moment, a time when you are creating your thoughts and experience before it is stored, time when you create your perception instead of reviewing it again.

    past:
    thoughts and perceptions that you have already experienced/created in earlier moments(nows)

    future:
    thoughts/perceptions/moments that havent happened yet.

    you can have a thought that combines all of these(like future expectations and hopes), with those you first create a thought/prediction of what you think will happen in the future. when you create this prediction of future, you do it in 'now' and after it is created, and you review it again before it happens it comes from from past 'now', but is happening again the the current moment. when this expected future happens, it happens in that current 'now', so it becomes part of 'now' and you modify the thought of the moment again as it moves to past. if the expected future doesent happen, then you made a false calculation because of limitations on seeing the 'now' and past fully and in objective matter and/or failed to combine now and past and seeing where it is going

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    Now is the grey button in the timeline of a YouTube clip.
    I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower. The TV was obviously on. I used to fly myself and I said, "There's one terrible pilot."
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    Now is what's happening here, but now is not happening three million light years away. There now happened three million years ago.

    So now is a moveable feast - and it is moved by light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    So what is now?
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