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    ^He pronks, too! Magic Poriferan's Avatar
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    Default Good and bad should be exclusive.

    I don't understand the idea of choosing to do something that you consider bad. It makes no logical sense. You either don't do it, or don't consider it bad.
    The tendency to label desired things as evil is extremely confusing to me.

    A really good place to start would be an advertisement for something pornographic. The first words that come up are "bad", "dirty", "nasty", "filthy" and the like. I find this extremely weird.
    If someone started talking dirty to me during sex, I'm pretty sure I'd start laughing, or I'd be discomforted. I can tell you I wouldn't be turned on.
    Why would I want sex to be bad?

    I think everyone that declares their own acts to be bad, with this look ,
    is suffering from a case of confusion instilled by society. I personally blame mono-theism. If you really want to do something, and don't see why you shouldn't, then why even call it bad?
    Even more baffling me is when people feel an increased desire to do something because it is "bad", much like those pornographic adds are appealing to.
    I think these people seriously need to do some soul searching to figure out what they really believe in, and what they really want.
    This train of thinking seems to be rather abundant in society, and it's one that gives me a lot of trouble in relating to the "common man".

    Don't do things you consider bad!
    That being said, don't consider something bad just because another circle does!
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    I don't think people doing 'bad' things think they are bad (a la ). It is more that the actions are commonly considered to be bad and the person is rebelling against tradition/norms. Also dirty talk/saying "I'm being so bad" is not nearly the same as feeling it genuinely (I'm mostly thinking of sex here though)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I don't understand the idea of choosing to do something that you consider bad. It makes no logical sense. You either don't do it, or don't consider it bad.
    The tendency to label desired things as evil is extremely confusing to me.

    A really good place to start would be an advertisement for something pornographic. The first words that come up are "bad", "dirty", "nasty", "filthy" and the like. I find this extremely weird.
    If someone started talking dirty to me during sex, I'm pretty sure I'd start laughing, or I'd be discomforted. I can tell you I wouldn't be turned on.
    Why would I want sex to be bad?

    I think everyone that declares their own acts to be bad, with this look ,
    is suffering from a case of confusion instilled by society. I personally blame mono-theism. If you really want to do something, and don't see why you shouldn't, then why even call it bad?
    Even more baffling me is when people feel an increased desire to do something because it is "bad", much like those pornographic adds are appealing to.
    I think these people seriously need to do some soul searching to figure out what they really believe in, and what they really want.
    This train of thinking seems to be rather abundant in society, and it's one that gives me a lot of trouble in relating to the "common man".

    Don't do things you consider bad!
    That being said, don't consider something bad just because another circle does!
    I think they don't really consider it bad viscerally, I think they're just self-conscious about society considering it bad, so their desire for it becomes something to be ashamed of. So when they finally let themselves express it, they feel liberated by letting go and allowing themselves to identify with what is considered "evil."

    People are much less likely to violate their own deeply held personal standards than rules that have been imposed from the outside. Some people have no personal standards, however, and need rules imposed to control their behavior at all. INTP's tend to have strong personal integrity (a mark in your favor in some ways, actually), so you probably don't understand that mentality too well.

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    It's a logic versus emotion thing. If I went up to someone and said, "What do you think about drug dealers?" They would generally say something to the extent that they are dirty, evil people. If I then asked them, "What do you think of casino operators/tobacco executives/McDonalds executives/etc.?" they would still think it was bad...but not nearly as bad. Why? They are virtually all the same. It's just because of society's effects on emotion. Society makes flawed logic almost instinctual.

    Likewise...if I raked a poker game or ran a numbers racket I would be bad. But if the government runs a lotto it's ok.
    "You will always be fond of me. I represent to you all the sins you never had the courage to commit."

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    than to serve and obey them. - David Hume

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    A question of localized flexible ethics?
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    some of us feel like sticking it to The Man while a man is sticking it to us!

    really- on my part it's all rebellion against the oppressive atmosphere of my hometown
    “Oh, we're always alright. You remember that. We happen to other people.” -Terry Pratchett

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    some of us feel like sticking it to The Man while a man is sticking it to us!

    really- on my part it's all rebellion against the oppressive atmosphere of my hometown
    But what I often wonder is what the worth is of "sticking it to the man" when the means by which you do it can be self-destructive(as it often seems to be for rebellious people), even more-so than anything the system imposed on you.

    Rebellious drug use comes to mind.
    Some rebellion. Why do the authorities need to be scared? Are they going to be shaking in their boots when the health-care system gets a dent?
    I tend to think a rebellion needs an aim, too. Rebelling for the sake of rebelling is ridiculous. Nothing good would actually come of a rebellion that is based entirely around unplanned wrecked.
    It's all non-sensical. Very immature.

    Through my whole teenage life I have had little respect for my peers.
    Did you know that all of the top causes of death amongst teenagers are unnatural, often self-induced?
    They have no talent for cost-analysis.
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    I don't take stupid risks! I just occasionally feel like rebelling for the sake of it because it makes me feel less bored with my life!
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    Things that should be considered bad are acts that disregard another and harm them, be it physically or emotionally. It shouldn't be confusing to label such a thing as bad.

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    I'm apparently one of the least bored people in the country.
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