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    Quote Originally Posted by suttree View Post
    This is weird. You are reading a book and breathing calmly. There are no risks to anybody.

    This and characterizing me as a conformist without historical perspective is manipulative. Asking for phone numbers and then attempting to manipulate through the rhetoric of a second-rate pundit is way creepy.

    I won't be participating.
    Meditation, either group or individual, does provide psychological risk to the psychotic, the psychologically defended (sometimes called neurotic), and to those obsessed with sex.

    The first rule, of course, is do no harm.

    And so the first rule of meditation is do no psychological harm.

    So I think your decision not to participate is wise.

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    just lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Meditation, either group or individual, does provide psychological risk to the psychotic, the psychologically defended (sometimes called neurotic), and to those obsessed with sex.

    The first rule, of course, is do no harm.

    And so the first rule of meditation is do no psychological harm.

    So I think your decision not to participate is wise.
    If meditation causes harm to no one except for psychologically defensive (whatever that means), psychotics and sexually obsessed, and you are saying that it is wise for suttree to not meditate, then does that mean that you are placing suttree within that latter category of people? How could you possibly know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    If meditation causes harm to no one except for psychologically defensive (whatever that means), psychotics and sexually obsessed, and you are saying that it is wise for suttree to not meditate, then does that mean that you are placing suttree within that latter category of people? How could you possibly know that?
    Just a wild guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Just a wild guess.
    Certainly is wild. That's something you should not be doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    Certainly is wild. That's something you should not be doing.
    I like to think of you as Jiminy Cricket and myself as Pinocchio.

    And as you know, Jiminy sat on Pinocchio's shoulder and whispered in his ear.

    But most important Jiminy was Pinocchio's conscience.

    So I want you to read every word I write and tell me when my nose is growing longer and longer.

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    I appreciate the support, tater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suttree View Post
    I appreciate the support, tater.
    FYI, we're all supporting you, just silently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suttree View Post
    I appreciate the support, tater.


    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I like to think of you as Jiminy Cricket and myself as Pinocchio.

    And as you know, Jiminy sat on Pinocchio's shoulder and whispered in his ear.

    But most important Jiminy was Pinocchio's conscience.

    So I want you to read every word I write and tell me when my nose growing longer and longer.
    Hah, alright I'll do that, you lying rascal.

    Are you a real boy?

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    It takes ten thousand hours of practice to become a master. It doesn't matter whether you are learning to play the piano or meditate. And it doesn't matter whether you are Mozart or you - it still takes ten thousand hours.

    And when you are doing something you love, time disappears in the flow.

    Of course reading aloud to children, in the library, or on the radio, or telephone, is simply an occasion for meditation.

    And the practice of meditation can become a habit. And so we might do a walking meditation as we wait for the bus, or if we have the time, we might lie in the bath for three hours and let our thoughts come to a complete stop. Or we might meditate in that brief moment we go up in a lift.

    And as we practice, we study the structure of meditation. And with a knowledge of the structure and the experience that comes from practice, we may design a meditation for a particular purpose. And so we become a meditation designer.

    I have designed two meditations. The first is called 5X5X5 or L'alternance. And the second is called Telephone Art. They both work and both are powerful. And I am proud of them as a parent is of their babies.

    And of course they now go on without me.

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