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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Yay! You both agreed on something! Break out the ice wines and ritzy little crackers!

    OOOHHHHHHHHMMMMM. Meditation works. It's a fact, jack.
    I'll bring the boxed Chablis!


    Classy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    We should totally do this.
    I'm in. As long as it's not past my bedtime.
    Great!
    *opens stalker pad*
    What time do you go to sleep?

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    Hehe I thought the title said "Sharing Medication"

    While I'm here, does anyone like taking a beta blocker before meditation? It helps my sympathetic nervous system relax while not affecting my brain (assuming you use one that doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier or use a low dose of one that does).
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    Quote Originally Posted by xNTP View Post
    Great!
    *opens stalker pad*
    What time do you go to sleep?
    Usually in the middle of one of our conversa-
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Is victor serious? This is weird and kinda creepy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suttree View Post
    Is victor serious? This is weird and kinda creepy.
    Of course I am serious.

    And so far we have had two successful phone meditations reading aloud to one another.

    I remember my parents read aloud to my sister and me. And I remember we would be read aloud to during dinner at my boarding school. And we would be read aloud to as we fell asleep in our dormitories.

    And at my local library we have regular readings aloud which are well attended.

    I am cut to the quick as being described as weird and creepy.

    And if you think reading aloud on the internet is weird and creepy, perhaps you might find something else more to your taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suttree View Post
    Is victor serious? This is weird and kinda creepy.
    I was thinking - you might find reading aloud weird and creepy because you are trained to read alone.

    Historically this is only a recent invention along with carrels in libraries. As you sit in your carrel in the library you remember it was built to train you to read alone.

    But through most of history reading was done aloud to a group. You can still see this in church where the bible is read aloud to the congregation.

    And on the internet on Typology Central we are all reading this together, so it seems a small step to read aloud to one another.

    But of course for the literate individual, reading aloud in a group is a big step and will be described by the conformist as weird and creepy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I was thinking - you might find reading aloud weird and creepy because you are trained to read alone.

    Historically this is only a recent invention along with carrels in libraries. As you sit in your carrel in the library you remember it was built to train you to read alone.

    But through most of history reading was done aloud to a group. You can still see this in church where the bible is read aloud to the congregation.

    And on the internet on Typology Central we are all reading this together, so it seems a small step to read aloud to one another.

    But of course for the literate individual, reading aloud in a group is a big step and will be described by the conformist as weird and creepy.
    I have a question -

    Why is it preferable to read aloud in a group as opposed to reading aloud by yourself?

    Can't meditation be an individual process?

    Or is there something that reinforces the trance when others are participating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    I have a question -

    Why is it preferable to read aloud in a group as opposed to reading aloud by yourself?

    Can't meditation be an individual process?

    Or is there something that reinforces the trance when others are participating?
    Sure, meditation can be an individual process.

    And in a society based on literacy like the USA most things are an individual process. After all, they say an American is never more American than when they are alone.

    But in my society where the oral tradition is still kept alive, we listen more to one another.

    And in the larger sphere, the invention of the printing press in 1440 led to the literate individual and the USA, while in 1840 the invention of the electric telegraph led to electronic tribalism in the global village.

    But to the literate individual electronic tribalism seems weird and creepy.

    And so the literate individual meditates alone, while the electronic tribe meditates together in real time across the world, warm muzzle to warm ear.

    It is a shame that as we move into electronic tribalism we are still under the sway of the extreme individualism of the USA. Fortunately we are falling more and more under the sway of China which is a deeply oral culture.

    And sharing meditation through reading aloud is a way of joining the electronic tribe in the global village.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Those who will not benefit from sharing meditation are those suffering from a psychosis, or those suffering with massive psychological defences, or those suffering from sexual obsession.
    This is weird. You are reading a book and breathing calmly. There are no risks to anybody.

    But let me be realistic. MBTI is about control and manipulation. And meditation is about the opposite.
    This and characterizing disagreement with you as conformist without historical perspective is manipulative rhetoric. Asking for phone numbers and then attempting to manipulate through the rhetoric of a second-rate pundit is way creepy.

    I won't be participating.

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