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    A perspective on life

    Recently, I have changed perspectives on a great many important things.
    An idea of a personal code of behavior has started to take form.
    Here it is, in a rough and incomplete phase of its creation.


    This if for those with a strong and keen mind, only.
    People that shape the world around them.
    This is not for kittens.

    These are a few thoughts of mine.
    Sort of like laws that I live by, or at least try to, because this is who I am.
    Read it and think for a while.
    Do you agree with me?
    If you don't, what do you disagree with, and why? What basis of your own can you found that upon?
    Try to think for a while, as I said. If you are opposed to this, is it not only society that has caused you to be a bit brainwashed with ideas that won't really benefit you at all?
    Think about that, and that you only live once. You gotta make the most of it.
    People won't remember you in a hundred years anyway, so experience life at its fullest.
    What good will working a boring job do you, in the long run?
    In the end, you will just have wasted a lot of time doing something you didn't want to do.




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    - Family aren't those who share your blood by default. You choose who to trust in based on who you can actually trust to have your back when the shit hits the fan.
    - 99.9% of all people are shitheads. They do not deserve respect by default.
    - Totalitarianism as well as democracy are stupid ideas, since people are shitheads who can't tie their own shoelaces. Choose a group of individuals like you and work for your mutual benefit as brothers.
    - Be healthy and true to yourself in mind, body and soul. Do not deny who you are, work constantly to make yourself sharper and more knowledgeable as well as physically fit and skillful.
    - Life won't give you any free tickets, you must pry everything from the hands of others who most of the time work towards other ends than you.
    - Meekness is seldom rewarded. Be kind and generous to those who do not go against you, and those who help further your goals. Crush those who oppose you, disregard them and discard them.
    - People are just human, and you can be stronger and meaner than they can ever hope to be as long as you put your mind to it. Fear none. Mental and physical brutality can take you anywhere as long as you are past the point of constitution where only you dictates where the boundaries of your personal strength ends.
    - Don't let life scare you into submission. Scare people instead. Hammer them to either leave you alone or further your ends. Shape them by your will.
    - Treat your closest friends better than yourself, and expect nothing less in return.
    - Life is pretty worthless without material wealth as well as feelings of all sorts. You can't really live a good life without either. It's only in romantic movies and idealistic, pointless arguments where you actually have to choose between the two, when in reality having one means that acquiring the other will be easier.
    - It is better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.
    - Treat yourself as the highest authority and only abide by what you personally believe in.
    - Take what you want out of life, as long as doing so won't conflict with those you love and respect as well as your morality.
    - This might seem like anti-social behavior, but in reality I just want to be left alone to do what I want with who I want and live the life I need.
    - Having a set of codes to live by is essential. If you share my beliefs, you are my brother as long as you respect me.
    - Making smart decisions and surviving the game is priority two, but don't ever betray the trust of your brothers even if it will land you in a world of shit and pain. That is priority one.


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    Well, I kinda agree with many things here. I have basically turn my back on the society and chosen my group. But this stuff I don't agree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by YourLocalJesus View Post
    - 99.9% of all people are shitheads. They do not deserve respect by default.
    It's more like 80% are lost and hardly ever look around to see where they are at.

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    - Life won't give you any free tickets, you must pry everything from the hands of others who most of the time work towards other ends than you.
    This is not true around here. There's all kinds of free stuff you can get. Social benefits. A lot of alcoholics rely on them. I feel like I am no worse than them, so if I need money I am not ashamed to ask for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by YourLocalJesus View Post
    - Meekness is seldom rewarded. Be kind and generous to those who do not go against you, and those who help further your goals. Crush those who oppose you, disregard them and discard them.
    I don't see how crushing people would get me closer to my goals.

    Quote Originally Posted by YourLocalJesus View Post
    - People are just human, and you can be stronger and meaner than they can ever hope to be as long as you put your mind to it. Fear none. Mental and physical brutality can take you anywhere as long as you are past the point of constitution where only you dictates where the boundaries of your personal strength ends.
    These are extreme measures. I see no use for them.

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    - Don't let life scare you into submission. Scare people instead. Hammer them to either leave you alone or further your ends. Shape them by your will.
    Shaping people is also waste of time.

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    - It is better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.
    I usually ask neither. But the attitude of this line is what I disagree with. I don't find anything so important to grab that I would need such an aggressive mindset.

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    ^ All according to the nature of one's self. And the crushing part wasn't literal
    I'll get my ground beef from a store instead.

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    I agree with a few of these guidelines and I have no great problem with the ones that I disagree with; but when I say 'disagree' I do not mean 'disagree' as in 'a stance of opposition'. Rather, these rules simply cannot fit into my personal life so I'm inclined to discard them on a personal basis, but I can still see how they would work positively for someone else. Like you said, this stuff isn't for kittens; I'm a slightly timid and fragile person. I'm still developing, currently.

    It seems like you are closing yourself in and shutting people out and this process is something that I've been thinking about a lot recently. It seems to me that life forces us into various specific fields and it seems like this continuous growth only secludes us from even more people or professions and many other things. Eventually, it seems, that we become continuously more limited as we become even more liberated; this is a strange thought, yet I think it is true. There are exceptions to this rule, of course, but you can still see it happening nonetheless. I do wonder if it is unhealthy to only know people like yourself though, as it may cause stagnation in various areas of ones life.

    Maybe I should make a thread about my core philosophies as well... Perhaps? Eh, now you've got me wanting to finish them all off and they need a lot of work...

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    Hmm... But what if it does end well?
    Then I suppose it will be a different sort of poetry, a preferable sort...
    A sort I could become accustomed to...



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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentMind View Post
    It seems to me that life forces us into various specific fields and it seems like this continuous growth only secludes us from even more people or professions and many other things. Eventually, it seems, that we become continuously more limited as we become even more liberated; this is a strange thought, yet I think it is true.
    This is true. It might work well for an extrovert, but I find that the more I narrow my field of action the more free I am to do the things that interest me and hang out with people I truly enjoy. But narrowing the field doesn't mean narrowing myself, quite contrary. I think I can focus better this way, so I am more often fully doing whatever I am doing.

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    I also have my own set of rules to live by.

    My close friends often say that my life philosophy resembles that of the Samurai, because I am very strict to myself.

    I can identify myself with most of your points. I only disagree with the following two:

    Quote Originally Posted by YourLocalJesus
    - Meekness is seldom rewarded. Be kind and generous to those who do not go against you, and those who help further your goals. Crush those who oppose you, disregard them and discard them.
    While it is true that meekness is seldom, if ever, rewarded; one of my faovurite quotes is "keep your friends close and your enemies closer". I will not crush them immediately. Some life experiences proved me that people who opposed me, given the proper treatment, helped me to achieve my goals. I learned how to make the opposition work for me, without them noticing.

    Quote Originally Posted by YourLocalJesus
    Mental and physical brutality can take you anywhere as long as you are past the point of constitution where only you dictates where the boundaries of your personal strength ends.
    My disagreement on this part may have something to do with gender. I´m very conscious of my charm, so I choose to "kill them with softness". Again, using my mind and speech, not in a brutal manner. A combination of good manners, looks, and the right choice of words have always taken me further than brutality. I can´t survive a fist fight, but, in a duel of wits, I can count on the fingers of one hand the people who are a good match for me.

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    I reckon a perspective on life is important, its a good idea to try and outline your values and find out if they resonate with anyone else, a lot of history and politics, philosophy and spirituality, is people doing precisely this.

    I reckon its clear here that you're prioritising brotherhood or fraternity, that's grand and pretty popular, the TV shows and movies which seem to epitomise it are all the rage at the moment and I understand their appeal. Its why gangs are popular in some neighbourhoods, on another level its why politics, patriotism and even terrorism are popular.

    I'm not sure there's anything that shocking about those priorities, alientation with atomism isnt that new, the novel atomised was a sort of neocon/cultural con angry rant which publishers thought would crash and burn, it was an over night success and became a classic flogged by Penguin Books along with War and Piece and stuff.

    Fight Club struck a similar cord with loads of people experiencing "man angst" despite the author having gone on the record that he created it from lots of cooky chain mails which circulated in the ninties, including stories about split personalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YourLocalJesus View Post
    Recently, I have changed perspectives on a great many important things.
    An idea of a personal code of behavior has started to take form.
    Here it is, in a rough and incomplete phase of its creation.

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    Go get all those assholes on your way to empire, little dictator.

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    You sound like a bitter misanthrope who has just watched Fight Club and read The Art of War for the first time. Add one of the many disappointments of life as a catalyst and you've got this thread.

    Anyway, I agree with the following:

    Try to think for a while, as I said. If you are opposed to this, is it not only society that has caused you to be a bit brainwashed with ideas that won't really benefit you at all?
    Think about that, and that you only live once. You gotta make the most of it.
    People won't remember you in a hundred years anyway, so experience life at its fullest.
    What good will working a boring job do you, in the long run?
    In the end, you will just have wasted a lot of time doing something you didn't want to do.

    I am going to comment on the points I disagree with.

    - 99.9% of all people are shitheads. They do not deserve respect by default.
    I am going to disregard the percentage that you pulled out of your ass. I believe you should respect everybody on your road through life until they have proven themselves undeserving of it. You should do this in an effort to make society a better place by making your fellow human beings feel appreciated. This is of course not the case on the internet, where people aren't people and society in the form of give-and-take is non-existent.

    - (1) Treat yourself as the highest authority and (2) only abide by what you personally believe in.
    (1) In matters of knowledge and opinions? Sounds arrogant. In matters of respecting the laws of society? Sounds antisocial.

    (2) This doesn't really work if you want to thrive in society while not being antisocial. To thrive you need to be flexible, and sometimes you need to give in and conform to the beliefs of other people whose positive thoughts of you somehow give you an edge. In cases where you don't lose anything from conforming, but don't gain anything either, just do it for the sake of peace and respect. I'm not saying that you should adopt their beliefs, but you should respect them - at least externally.

    - Totalitarianism as well as democracy are stupid ideas, since people are shitheads who can't tie their own shoelaces. Choose a group of individuals like you and work for your mutual benefit as brothers.
    - Don't let life scare you into submission. Scare people instead. Hammer them to either leave you alone or further your ends. Shape them by your will.
    The 4 points listed above would not be antisocial if you lived somewhere desolate where you didn't have to interact with society outside the tightly knit circle of which you speak, that consists of "brothers," loved ones and close friends. For society to function, people have to follow certain unwritten rules. You want to work against society (not respecting the unwritten rules = working against) while at the same time benefiting from the sacrifices that other people make to ensure the survival of it. It reminds me of - amongst other things - the small groups of antisocial Muslim immigrants that are present in all western European nations nowadays, who do not want to be a part of society, thus working against it, but still benefit from it. Your success depends on people being willing to follow the rules so you can take advantage of them. I know you didn't spell this out, but it is insinuated in the things you have written. What do you think would happen if everybody adopted this codex of "circlecentrism"? I have a few ideas, and they aren't positive. What you are preaching is unfair to all the people who make an effort to make society work.

    The way you have worded yourself reminds me of a religious or self-help flyer; a religion of antisocialism. The Club of Antisocialists.
    It is healthy to be a bit antisocial and it is sometimes necessary for you to be successful, but it shouldn't be a lifestyle like you put it out to be. I know you don't think of your values as being antisocial, but I believe they are when you put them into the context of society and people outside your circle.

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    Are you in a gang or something?

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