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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    If you found God, what would happen?
    The world would explode. Probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentMind View Post
    This isn't worth the effort. Good day.
    *sighs*

    Thank you for being the bigger man. Or woman. Whichever.

    *short pause*

    That doesn't sound patronizing, I hope...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    If you found God, what would happen?
    I'd kill him and become god myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    I'd kill him and become god myself.
    Then there would still be God.

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    God renews in each generation!

    "I am always with you." Jesus

    The word...(i.e. knowledge,understanding and wisdom) always becomes flesh! A resulting new cultus is always considered but not always wise...thus the debate is allowed to continue with only slight changes from the original...ever so slight in some generations. And good and evil? Words only...just words from a perspective...fear not!
    "This fearless one always is the same in essence,however.He is Holy heresy born stout lacking the ability to cower or break.The Universe is transparent to him." Me

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    This thread is yet another reason for NFs to leave the difficult subjects to NTs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iriohm Bladewalker View Post
    I understand full well the importance of such people, and I meant no offense. I didn't mean "drones" in the sense that a lot of people are them, but in the sense that everyone has a little "drone" in them. Everyone is individual, yet also interconnected, and when you get right down to it (and take the body away), where one person ends and another begins becomes a very vague line. What are we, but a governing force over a collection of thoughts, memories, and ideas, many of which remain relatively similar, regardless of who they belong to. You see that chair, and I see that chair; it's the same sensation. It's what we as individuals do with that sensation that counts.
    Thanks for the clarification

    As much as I appreciate you protecting the masses, that is not at all what I said, or meant to say. I'm not insulting people, or looking down on them, or dismissing them as inferior, or anything even remotely like that; I am simply describing how things work, from a purely objective standpoint, in an imagined reality by using my own as reference. I apologize again for giving that impression.
    Honestly, I don't need or want an apology.
    It was meant as feedback to help you better tailor your message.

    I'm less concerned about protecting the masses, more concerned about you simply realizing how this sort of phrasing will no doubt come across with less-forgiving recipients.

    I've been bitten in the bottom before and derailed my own message by not considering my word choices better, at times.

    So if it's NOT what you intend, then it might be a pitfall you will want to avoid.

    An argument I've heard before, and one I don't believe, though I can respect that you do.
    I'm not sure I do, actually.
    I'm just presenting the opposing argument of what you suggested.
    I'm not sure which one is more true.

    On the other hand, this rather ties in to the previous bit. We, as members of this mess of creation called the world, are all a part of God's mind. However, my point is, if we're all sentient, are we all, in some way, "God", in the same sense that the more sentient characters in my paracosm (imagined world; I just learned that word) are me, recognized and named as aspects of myself?
    Yeah. Fine, I do get that bit. And there are various philosophies built on that sort of concept.

    It is difficult to explain; like the Holy Trinity, actually, but if this is true, then, and I mean this in the humblest possible sense, we decide what God thinks, and God decides what we think, and those distinctions are too close together to remain separate.
    No, I don't see it as difficult, it's pretty basic to me. It just wasn't clear in your original paragraph, it was much better explained here.

    Which is why I chose Philosophy and Spirituality.


    Tiring. The way I see it, Jesus himself was a radical at the time, full to the brim with new ideas that contradicted what many people thought. I ask myself sometimes whether, if he came back now, anyone would recognize him.
    Probably not. I'm pretty sure much of the Church wouldn't. There's a lot in common between the Pharisees of old (they considered themselves the ones who were "serious about God," they felt like the last bastions of purity amid the seething wastelands of a declining immoral culture, and they felt that by keeping themselves apart and living a holy life, they could redeem things) and large sects of Christianity today.

    And what did the Pharisees call Jesus? They suggested he was the son of the devil, for one. He even hung out with the undesirables that made a person unclean. Certainly not someone who was going to restore or fulfill the faith.
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    This thread is yet another reason for NFs to leave the difficult subjects to NTs.
    That was rather callous of you to say. We NFs bring valuable insight to the table.
    "Quiiri ath metahn i'ashei?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Thanks for the clarification
    You're quite welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Honestly, I don't need or want an apology.
    It was meant as feedback to help you better tailor your message.
    Well, I apologized anyway. It never hurts to be sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I'm less concerned about protecting the masses, more concerned about you simply realizing how this sort of phrasing will no doubt come across with less-forgiving recipients.

    I've been bitten in the bottom before and derailed my own message by not considering my word choices better, at times.

    So if it's NOT what you intend, then it might be a pitfall you will want to avoid.
    I suppose I kind of got that. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I'm not sure I do, actually.
    I'm just presenting the opposing argument of what you suggested.
    I'm not sure which one is more true.
    If that lengthy argument I just had made anything clear, it's that there is no truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Yeah. Fine, I do get that bit. And there are various philosophies built on that sort of concept.
    Are there? Which ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    No, I don't see it as difficult, it's pretty basic to me. It just wasn't clear in your original paragraph, it was much better explained here.
    Then you're lucky, or perhaps I am. I'm glad you understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Probably not. I'm pretty sure much of the Church wouldn't. There's a lot in common between the Pharisees of old (they considered themselves the ones who were "serious about God," they felt like the last bastions of purity amid the seething wastelands of a declining immoral culture, and they felt that by keeping themselves apart and living a holy life, they could redeem things) and large sects of Christianity today.

    And what did the Pharisees call Jesus? They suggested he was the son of the devil, for one. He even hung out with the undesirables that made a person unclean. Certainly not someone who was going to restore or fulfill the faith.
    ...and that is a dangerous state to be in. Look at this guy here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    This thread is yet another reason for NFs to leave the difficult subjects to NTs.
    Yes, because it is only rational to judge entire demographics by a few individuals within them.

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