Stuff like eating habits, particular prays, rites they have to follow... if I can work around it I will accommodate.
Oh that's an interesting scenario... has that happened to you? I would just skip the eating together part. Have outing... when it comes to meal times, break off individually/in small groups to have whatever you want, then meet back at a specific time and place. A lot easier to handle... plus it's nice for people of the specific religion to have their little private talks. Makes things run a little smoother afterwards. ^^Originally Posted by PTG
It's a human trait to want to clarify your point... it's also an innate trait to view self as more accurate. Afterall how can you not? You're always aware of your thoughts and feelings about things... whereas for others... you can only go by what you observe them do. I think maturity comes in realizing we have self-biasing tendencies and work at overriding them.Sadly, I generally want to argue with them and make them understand my point of view. Would you say that is just a human trait or a lack of maturity?
I have very little tolerance for people like that. I've stated it above... I'll say it again. You have no right to force anything onto anybody. Even if you think it's a gift. If they say no, you stop. If they tried to argue with me... well they really shouldn't. With every religion, believe what have you, there are sticking points. You push... I poke at those. Push me hard enough, I'll attempt to tear the whole thing down on you. Friendly debates on various issues relating to the holes though, I quite welcome. ^^Regardless, it is easy to say that you are tolerant of other people's beliefs, but how tolerant are you when somebody is trying to impose their religious/political beliefs or view of the world on your life? It seems that this is the core of most conflicts in the world. Different people value different rights, and when those rights contradict with each other, there are fireworks.
*nods* Relative can be encompassing. I like to think of it as all being inter-related in a giant web of believes. While you might not agree with what they're saying... you can still listen and learn about their absolutes and see for yourself how they see the world and therefore fill in more gaps in that web.Of course the more relative in your beliefs that you become, the more frustrating it becomes to listen to those who believe in absolutes. And I imagine it is equally as frustrating for those who believe in absolutes to discuss things with those who believe that life is relative to experience and culture.
What is relative and what is absolute? I think I'm more in the relative camp, but when you look into most religions or culture... you'll see repeating themes over and over. Does that point to absolutes?Of course, the relative perspective is often the most logical because we do develop our beliefs systems based on our family, community, religion, etc. However, logic isn't perfect, and it would also seem wise to strive for ideals based on absolute beliefs. Would you say your views are more relative or absolute?
It depends on what you value... and it depends on what your goals might be. I see it as that you need the past to define the present, then using trends you observed in the present can you adapt for the future. It's simply a shifting balance. For only in stability can you maintain productive change.It also seems our beliefs systems are terribly confounded by the past, present, and future. We wish to maintain what has worked, but we also want to find solutions for problems that we are currently facing, and on top of that we still want to strive forward. Where should our focus be in addressing our beliefs systems and the belief systems of others? Should we be aiming for tradition, compromise, or progress?
If you phrased it that way... it would seem unwise doesn't it? But if the environment stays consistent... there's no need to waste time and effort thinking about those things. However if the environment changes... well you know the rest.It seems that a good share of people just blindly follow their beliefs. Is that wise?
Can you fully understand why you believe what you believe? Some people dig too far and started questioning themselves... Ignorance is in some ways bliss. But it's also dull... (well I find it anyways) and not helpful in adapting to changes. Win some, lose some... same as for anything else really.Wouldn't it be to everyone's advantage to understand why you believe what you believe? Or is there some benefit to being ignorant of your own belief system?
All beliefs has basis of origin... otherwise people wouldn't have wasted time in creating/writing them down. Though they might be completely useless now because conditions have changed.How many of our beliefs have no basis other than what has been dictated by our respected religions or been passed down by our parents?
I've been told by my friend last week that there's a passage in the bible that says you can't consume fresh blood, as in all meats must be fully cooked. Back in the olden days that rule probably kept people from getting sick... but I don't think many people follow that one anymore... not when you have refrigeration to keep meat fresh...
I'll go with free choice... teach them about the believes, but in the end it's up to them to decide what they want.How should beliefs be passed on to children? Should they be indoctrinated or allowed to choose what they believe for themselves?
I'm in full agreement with you there. As to the rest of it... I think I overloaded my brain... I might respond more later... chances are probably not because I'm lazy. But you've brought up some very nice topics for discussion.It is my contention that beliefs do not make a good or bad person, it is ethics. Now, this does not mean that certain beliefs are not inherantly bad...because there are beliefs that are inherantly bad, but when you get to the root of the belief it is bad because of the ethics behind the belief....