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    I think one of the most basic requirements for defining an organization as a cult should be that it has a detrimental effect on your life. I'm not sure if all the organizations mentioned in this thread qualify on this most fundamental of criterion.
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    Well technically cult means a small religious group. The negative image attached to the word or groups that fall under that category is a more recent development, especially in wake of the mass suicide incident at Jonestown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Well technically cult means a small religious group. The negative image attached to the word or groups that fall under that category is a more recent development, especially in wake of the mass suicide incident at Jonestown.
    Or to religions like Scientology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    One of my ex-boyfriends when I was younger had a brother who converted to the Mormon church, and when Mormon brother married his wife, his family wasn't even invited to the "real" wedding because they weren't Mormons. I also found out that they wear sacred long johns and pray for their dead and non-Mormon relatives to someday have a planet of their own.

    I also once made the mistake of allowing Mormons to tell me about their religion one time when I was living in Vegas, and the two guys practically stalked me afterward trying to get me to come to their church: calling repeatedly, even randomly showing up at my apartment.

    I think Mormonism is a cult, srsly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Or to religions like Scientology.
    Yes them too, also can't forget David Koresh and the Branch Davidians. Or even Heavens' Gate.

    However as many sociologists note, these negative images that drive the popular imagination are a little misleading; since there's plenty of "cults" that operate very benignly. Hence why the term "New Religious Movement" is commonly used to distinguish these groups from their more destructive counterparts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I think one of the most basic requirements for defining an organization as a cult should be that it has a detrimental effect on your life. I'm not sure if all the organizations mentioned in this thread qualify on this most fundamental of criterion.
    Living in oppression and exclusivism are the main criteria I would look at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beat View Post
    Living in oppression, exclusivism and the idea that their small, narrow minded group is the only way to heaven are the main criteria I would use to make an assessment..
    It's only oppression if it's against your will...one man's oppression is another man's discipline. And while I'm sure that exclusivism or the belief that your group has all the answers are irritating to others, I'm not sure how it's detrimental to the members of the group.
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    I don't think an individual necessarily has to recognize he's being oppressed for it to be so. If someone has in their mind that their marriage vows are obsolete and their obligation to take care of a child are secondary to their faith (though this indoctrinated person supposedly loves them a lot), because they're following the twisted will of God and the spouse/child aren't, then that would clearly be deemed as oppression. It would be against one's natural will, but one's natural will is voluntarily sacrificed in obedience to God and so the security in being obedient to God overrides the agony of betraying your family. In my eyes, the individual is explicitly being oppressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
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    WTF Why did Peguy get moderated? If his video is taken down, mine should be too.

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