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    Default If Christ was completely without sin...

    Was he actually a carnal man, as you or I am?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beat View Post
    Was he actually a carnal man, as you or I am?
    Yes.

    Being without sin indicates you have complete control over one's desires and urges, so he was less likely to fall for a woman or some other temptation, unlike you and I.

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    Christ and Misogyny

    Quote Originally Posted by Beat View Post
    Was he actually a carnal man, as you or I am?
    Like so many figures of myth, he was born of a virgin.

    We all know this is physically impossible, so this confirms him as a mythical figure.

    And mythical figures are not real, they are imaginary, so we can imagine anything we like about them.

    And normally we imagine him as without the carnal desires of an ordinary man.

    In fact the myth is that he was not just an ordinary man but God himself.

    Of course an interesting question is why don't we imagine him as carnal?

    And the answer lies in misogyny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    And the answer lies in misogyny.
    Victor, please paint for us a vision of a world without misogyny. What does that look like?

    I'm serious, now. I mean this. I want to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Victor, please paint for us a vision of a world without misogyny. What does that look like?

    I'm serious, now. I mean this. I want to know.
    Well, we can do this by comparison.

    Before 1904 the world was more misogynous, and after 1904 the world was less misogynous.

    For in 1904 women gained the national vote in Australia and New Zealand for the first time in human history.

    So every time women improve their social position, the world becomes less misogynist.

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    Misogyny and the Stockholm Syndrome

    So the myth of Christ is a misogynist myth.

    But it is such a powerful myth that even women believe it.

    And women become captive to this myth.

    This is called the Stockholm Syndrome where the captive identifies with the captor.

    And it doesn't matter whether the captors are terrorists or a powerful myth - it's still the Stockholm Syndrome.

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    Even having complete control of one's urges doesn't mean the thoughts aren't there. In the bible it says something along the lines of "if you've looked at a woman lustfully, then you've already committed adultery". Maybe Jesus was lucky to be born an asexual with no desire towards women? I doubt it, but that could be the only plausible explanation.

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    The only way a "carnal" man could be sinless is EXTREME... (actually an unrealistic) amount of fear.

    I really liked the Last Temptation of Christ. A struggling Jesus - maybe an INFP (not an INFJ).

    OK, bad joke maybe. Good scene though


    [youtube="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6SxJlS5OjY"]Last Temptation[/youtube]

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