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    Elie Weisel: "How many Nobel Prize winners died at the age of 1? 2? And who's shoes are here? One of them could have discovered the remedy for cancer, for AIDS. The great poets, the great dreamers."

    There is no measure for that.

    This video is troubling (re the Holocaust) so please accept this as my disclaimer.

    YouTube - Oprah & Elie Weisel at Auschwitz Part 5
    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
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    "When people see some things as beautiful,
    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
    Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

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    I like this quote:

    ''Stop trying to be better. You'll never be better. Same way you'll never be worse than anyone else."

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    Quote Originally Posted by durentu View Post
    If you can get every single person on earth to look at one person and all of them agree to the same number on whatever objective scale, then it's possible.
    That's not objectivity, that's mass subjectivity.

    Objective would be: 1 human life = 1 human life.
    There is no such thing as separation from God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durentu View Post
    If you can get every single person on earth to look at one person and all of them agree to the same number on whatever objective scale, then it's possible.
    Consensus dictates reality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    Every life is equal in value.
    I heartily disagree. The life of the Buddha and the life of Bernie Madoff are far from equally valuable.

    Yes, everyone is equal in the eyes of the Lord, if you'd like to put it that way. Actions are not, and actions define a man's worth, not his species.
    There is no such thing as separation from God.

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    Some people think its not worth anythng, others that its worth everything, I personally think it all depends.

    Are we talking Hills Have Eyes "humans" or the rest of the population?

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    It's all relative.
    "You will always be fond of me. I represent to you all the sins you never had the courage to commit."

    Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions, and can never pretend to any other office
    than to serve and obey them. - David Hume

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    I heartily disagree. The life of the Buddha and the life of Bernie Madoff are far from equally valuable.

    Yes, everyone is equal in the eyes of the Lord, if you'd like to put it that way. Actions are not, and actions define a man's worth, not his species.
    The morality of a person's actions do not define his worth in the realm of objectivity.

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    Then what does?
    There is no such thing as separation from God.

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    Every man is a piece of the puzzle we know as our world, which would be incomplete without him. How could one piece be less important than another? If a "bad" man is of lesser value, then our puzzle, our perception of the world, will be vastly distorted.

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