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    Default Role of Religion

    For religiously-inclined people:

    What role does religion play in your life? What role would you say it plays in people's lives in general? Why are people religious? e.g. "gives me a sense of purpose," "gives me a sense of certainty," "inspires me to be a better person," "answers difficult questions," "gives me direction," etc.
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    I don't think you'll be able to find a very concise answer with such a broad question.

    Suffice to say that religion provides both premise and closure to observable life. The interstitial stuff is more a matter of individual nuance.

    Obviously, religion isn't for everyone. Some find it problematically narrow. Others find it beautifully consoling.

    Where you stand depends on what you require for evidence before developing conclusion.

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    I don't need it to be concise or comprehensive... I just want to understand, if only somewhat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    I don't need it to be concise or comprehensive... I just want to understand, if only somewhat.
    Understand what? The role of religion?

    It's all inside. Everything you need.



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    I want to know the role that religion plays for different religious people. I know there's not a universal answer. I'm just curious what some people's answers would be and how they would phrase it.

    What do you mean it's all inside?
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    Spirituality is found from within.

    Everything else (religious and the practice thereof) are other people's ideas that you either accept blindly (so they are not your true beliefs at all) or they are beliefs you've screened from INSIDE of you... meaning that you are still generating your personal beliefs from within.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Spirituality is found from within.

    Everything else (religious and the practice thereof) are other people's ideas that you either accept blindly (so they are not your true beliefs at all) or they are beliefs you've screened from INSIDE of you... meaning that you are still generating your personal beliefs from within.
    Yes. Jennifer is correct, as usual.

    Religion is truth. Everything else is fact.

    Wrestling with this fundamental divide should help to alleviate burdensome external influence. If you're comfortable with untestable "truth", then religion is for you. If you'd prefer a mechanistic approach, then stick with the "facts".

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    I'm religious, but in my christianity I strive to move beyond mere religiosity. That is why it bothers me when people say christianity isn't a religion. It is a religion, but it is not merely a religion.

    I think Tim Keller, a pastor in my denomination, sums up the problem with mere religion rather well:

    [YOUTUBE="KrMdTrb65xw"]Tim Keller on Religion Being a Problem in the World[/YOUTUBE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    That is why it bothers me when people say christianity isn't a religion. It is a religion, but it is not merely a religion.
    Who says Christianity isn't a religion?

    And why would their splitting hairs matter to the faithfull any more than the ramblings of an atheist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    Who says Christianity isn't a religion?

    And why would their splitting hairs matter to the faithfull any more than the ramblings of an atheist?
    It's christians themselves that say it isn't a religion. My point is by definition according to webster's it is a religion:

    Religion: 2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

    My point is that the correct attitude of Christianity is not that it is not a religion, but that it is both a religion and more than a religion in that it is real and transformative on a metaphysical level... and because of this it doesn't lead to the hubris that Keller warns of, but that it leads to humility and servanthood amongst other virtuous attributes.
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