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    Tebow's pre-Wonderlic prayer request falls flat | ProFootballTalk.com

    "Per a league source, after the person administering the test to Tebow's group had finished, Tebow made a request that the players bow their heads in prayer before taking the 50-question exam.

    Said one of the other players in response: "Shut the f--k up." Others players in the room then laughed."

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    Good for them. Those kind of public prayer people are annoying. And I don't even dislike religion.

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    I am Christian and I am not anti-prayer, in fact, when I switched from Bible College to Community College, what I missed most was the prayer time at the beginning of each class. It felt nurturing and participating in a community. That was a setting in which everybody was in a religious setting voluntarily, though.

    I also believe in freedom of religion and freedom of speech, so if the dude wants to pray, he should pray.

    What I don't like is the attitude that, I HAVE A MANDATE FROM GOD AND AM DOING THE RIGHT THING AND THEREFORE I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT NO MATTER HOW SOCIALLY INAPPROPRIATE IT IS AND ALSO, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO HUMOR ME AND/OR DEFER TO ME BECAUSE GOD IS SANCTIONING MY BEHAVIOR. DID YOU HEAR THE PART WHERE I SAID GOD?!?!
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    I'm cool with him praying...
    ... to himself.

    But constantly trying to get other people, many of who you know don't believe, to act like they do believe?
    As cafe notes, in a Christian environment, it might make sense; but not in a secular one.

    (Then again, in his defense, this is what that subculture trains you to do. He believes he is being a good witness; and that if people don't like it, it's because they're resistant to God, rather than something being inappropriate with the demand.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I'm cool with him praying...
    ... to himself.

    But constantly trying to get other people, many of who you know don't believe, to act like they do believe?
    As cafe notes, in a Christian environment, it might make sense; but not in a secular one.

    (Then again, in his defense, this is what that subculture trains you to do. He believes he is being a good witness; and that if people don't like it, it's because they're resistant to God, rather than something being inappropriate with the demand.)
    That is very true. Even when I was immersed in the sub-culture, it made me uncomfortable. I also specifically remember in my Baptist high school, when we were talking about Catholic and Islamic crusades, that we deplored the attitude that the ends justifies the means and I guess I internalized that idea. Unfortunately, it appears to only apply to those other people.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
    ~ John Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post

    What I don't like is the attitude that, I HAVE A MANDATE FROM GOD AND AM DOING THE RIGHT THING AND THEREFORE I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT NO MATTER HOW SOCIALLY INAPPROPRIATE IT IS AND ALSO, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO HUMOR ME AND/OR DEFER TO ME BECAUSE GOD IS SANCTIONING MY BEHAVIOR. DID YOU HEAR THE PART WHERE I SAID GOD?!?!
    Right on the $.

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    Who's Tim Tebone?
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Who's Tim Tebone?
    Some college football quarterback star... or something. He's getting drafted to the NFL soon (?).

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    Is he the one everyone wants to abort?
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    He didn't need to pray for his 38.5" vertical leap. (tying the record for a QB)


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