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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    Raising a fist IS an idea. Not just to some people, but using the very definition of the word.
    To some its a reaction, which are the people you really need to watch. The ones who use it as an idea are much more in control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    To some its a reaction.
    Then what HG Wells said is irrelevant to the topic of "smacking's" justification. A reaction is no decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    Then what HG Wells said is irrelevant to the topic of "smacking's" justification. A reaction is no decision.

    Though I doubt one can't think about the decision of "raising fist" or not. One could realize the negatives after the reaction then from there truly initiate decision
    The decision with a reaction is deciding not to do it. Not deciding to do it. With one thought is before action, the other thought is after reaction. Different concepts of ideas as well. The way to stop hitting as a reaction is to recognize the reactionary idea, then handle it before it moves to action. The other is when one runs out of ideas and hitting becomes nothing more then a possible solution to the problem.

    Let me try yelling, it worked. Ok, now lets get to why I had to revert to yelling. Its a choice and a decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    ll. The way to stop hitting as a reaction is to recognize the reactionary idea, then handle it before it moves to action. The other is when one runs out of ideas and hitting becomes nothing more then a possible solution to the problem.

    Let me try yelling, it worked. Ok, now lets get to why I had to revert to yelling. Its a choice and a decision.
    If origin of reaction is decision, then its an idea, not just a reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    If origin of reaction is decision, then its an idea, not just a reaction.
    Yes, but the reason its a reaction is that its faster then you are conciously aware of. Its not a controlled decision, its a reaction. It is something you have to sense coming on before the fact until your reaction changes. It would be similiar to a habit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    Yes, but the reason its a reaction is that its faster then you are conciously aware of. Its not a controlled decision, its a reaction. It is something you have to sense coming on before the fact until your reaction changes. It would be similiar to a habit.
    Habit is the result of decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    Habit is the result of decision.
    Yes, but when it becomes something as extreme as hitting, it can be justified by self-defense and it may become a defensive reaction.

    If you have grown up with an image that when a woman blows up she is gonna grab a knife, then yes hitting becomes a reaction, it initially starts as a decision, then becomes a habit.

    Is it right to cause fear in someone that causes one to react defensively to the point where it becomes a habit and a reaction as opposed to a decision?

    edit: and no I have never been put in a position like this and hitting is not a reaction in me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biaxident View Post
    I wouldn't have put it so blandly, but, yes, under certain circumstances, there are people who will need a beat down.

    Perhaps in another thousand years, when humanity has become more enlightened(if we haven't blown ourselves to hell), no one will "deserve" to be hit.

    Lots of sheltered idealists here...
    It's true that as adults we can choose the company we keep.

    Some company will lead to violence and some company will lead to pleasure and delight.

    However some company is better than no company, and so if pleasure and delight are out of our reach, we reach for those who share our predilections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    What!? Then its not "never" justified.
    Justification doesn't neccesarily lead to positive outcome. What would be justified is a way to avoid fighting alltogether and reach a positive outcome. Just because laying a smackdown on someone might result in a good outcome for you, doesn't mean it's justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Justification doesn't neccesarily lead to positive outcome. What would be justified is a way to avoid fighting alltogether and reach a positive outcome. Just because laying a smackdown on someone might result in a good outcome for you, doesn't mean it's justified.
    are you simply being subjective here!?

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