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  • Abstinence before Marriage

    19 25.68%
  • Fidelity in Marriage

    58 78.38%
  • Being against Pornography

    15 20.27%
  • Being against Homosexual/Bisexual/Transgender behavior

    9 12.16%
  • Patriotism

    12 16.22%
  • Religious Freedom

    67 90.54%
  • Right to Life: Against Abortion and Euthanasia

    19 25.68%
  • Being against Addictive Drugs

    27 36.49%
  • Being against Alcohol

    10 13.51%
  • Being against Gambling

    14 18.92%
  • Being intolerant to any behavior that may destroy individuals, families, and our culture.

    15 20.27%
  • Discrimination as the wisdom of choosing between good and evil.

    9 12.16%
  • The Ends justifying the Means.

    10 13.51%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    A humorous thought. Two of the three highest traditional values are fidelity in marriage and being against addictive drugs, and yet whenever you hear about some staunch politician being in trouble for something, it usually involves an affair or a drug problem. Coinkydink?
    but that's what brings joy into my life as a poli sci major!

    and it's always the "family values" types too...
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    Is religious freedom (the only one I voted for) a family value?

    Discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nottaprettygal View Post
    Is religious freedom (the only one I voted for) a family value?
    Not really. (It should be, but in practice (by this sort of crowd), it's emphatically not.)

    As long as you practice the religion of the family, you're free; as soon as you switch to a different religion, though, you aren't really welcome anymore.

    That's what makes it all even more ironic... and sad. ("What a sad, lonely, old man you are.")
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    ...and it's always the "family values" types too...
    That's because when the other guys do it, it's not news.

    Imagine if Barney Frank gets picked up in a sting trolling for mansecks in an airport men's room. That's not exactly a scandal. It probably should be, but it's not.

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    Any time sex is spelled secks, I can't help but laugh.

    I think FOX would probably leap on that story, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    That's because when the other guys do it, it's not news.

    Imagine if Barney Frank gets picked up in a sting trolling for mansecks in an airport men's room. That's not exactly a scandal. It probably should be, but it's not.
    I'm not amused at what they've done really, just that they were preaching against other people doing it! Nothing better than a hypocrite getting called out for it!

    and Barney Frank getting caught with another man really wouldn't shock anyone I doubt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    A humorous thought. Two of the three highest traditional values are fidelity in marriage and being against addictive drugs, and yet whenever you hear about some staunch politician being in trouble for something, it usually involves an affair or a drug problem. Coinkydink?
    I find that persistent, vociferous condemnation of others' supposed vices is oftentimes part of an attempt to compensate for shame.

    And you know everyone who who has a "moral" objection to homosexuality is secretly gay, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Mexico View Post
    I find that persistent, vociferous condemnation of others' supposed vices is oftentimes part of an attempt to compensate for shame.

    And you know everyone who who has a "moral" objection to homosexuality is secretly gay, right?

    I do believe projection does happen, but I really hate it when people take that as a rule of thumb.
    "You know Gandhi was secretly murdering children, right?"
    No. No he wasn't. People can actually set good goals and be faithful to them. You can even criticise others for their flaws, and be an honest person yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Mexico View Post
    And you know everyone who who has a "moral" objection to homosexuality is secretly gay, right?


    ... wait. This was a joke (?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post


    ... wait. This was a joke (?)
    Yes, it was. That doesn't mean it isn't true, however.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I do believe projection does happen, but I really hate it when people take that as a rule of thumb.
    "You know Gandhi was secretly murdering children, right?"
    No. No he wasn't. People can actually set good goals and be faithful to them. You can even criticise others for their flaws, and be an honest person yourself.
    Yes, but preoccupation with others' personal business based on vague assertions about its connections to legitimate public concerns (the modus apparandi of most "culture warriors") tends to raise a red flag. I don't spend my time worrying about other people's sex lives or how they entertain themselves (alcohol/drugs/gambling/pornography), so I have to wonder what makes a person decide to make such a subject the focus of a personal crusade. Often as not, I think the need to "take a stand" in this way reflects a need to assuage the tension of an inner struggle by transposing it into a public arena. Gandhi's a poor example--he had a legitimate gripe with the way his society was organized. Mark Foley and his ilk have built careers out of turning other people's private lives into political issues.

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