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  • Abstinence before Marriage

    19 25.68%
  • Fidelity in Marriage

    58 78.38%
  • Being against Pornography

    15 20.27%
  • Being against Homosexual/Bisexual/Transgender behavior

    9 12.16%
  • Patriotism

    12 16.22%
  • Religious Freedom

    67 90.54%
  • Right to Life: Against Abortion and Euthanasia

    19 25.68%
  • Being against Addictive Drugs

    27 36.49%
  • Being against Alcohol

    10 13.51%
  • Being against Gambling

    14 18.92%
  • Being intolerant to any behavior that may destroy individuals, families, and our culture.

    15 20.27%
  • Discrimination as the wisdom of choosing between good and evil.

    9 12.16%
  • The Ends justifying the Means.

    10 13.51%
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    Religious freedom: I didn't know this was considered "traditional". The traditional value always seemed to be "think like me!". Religious Freedom is a no brainer.

    Things that may destroy individuals/families/communities: I assume destroy means kill or cause serious problems in life to the point people cna no longer lively happily. Anything that does that to people should not be allowed, unless the person says "I'm going to do this, this is my purpose!" but that doesn't ever happen

    Addictive drugs: See above.

    I also believe in fedelity to some extent, but it depends on the couple. Generally, marriage is an agreement of total exclusiveness between two people. However, if these two people want to agree to have an "open marriage" where they can have other sexual partners if they desire as long as they are open and honest about it, thats cool too.

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    Abstinence before Marriage: Pfft

    Fidelity in Marriage: Well, no, but I say that marriage is silliness to begin with.

    If you're going to get married, then it would be favorable, unless there was an agreement beforehand.

    Being against Pornography: Why? I mean... sure we could be putting the money to "better" use, but then there would be someone saying "Being against 'xxx'"

    Being against Homosexual/Bisexual/Transgender behavior: Same as porn. It really makes no difference to me. If these people want their porn, or gay porn, or to just be gay, why stop them? They're not causing any tangible damage to me, and if they are, I don't know about it, so until someone can prove to me that homosexuality is a detriment to myself, I say, have at it.

    Patriotism: Well, I'm not a patriot. I don't mind the fact that there are such things as patriots. I do mind however these people telling me things like " You gotta get behind the troops, even if you dislike the war"

    Especially dealing with Iraq... I've struggled with these people. I don't think I have any obligation to the troops. 100% of them are volunteers for a war I disagree with. If they want to get killed for a cause they believe in, fine, but don't ask me to support those assholes, because they're doing something I think is terrible. From my vantage point, it would be the same as supporting someone in their crusade against intellectualism or comedy.

    Patriotism, is, I think very stupid, as is Nationalism, Patriotism's ugly pimple stricken cousin.

    Religious Freedom: I have a different definition of religious freedom than most. See, everyone says that people should be allowed to worship as they please. That's fine, and I agree with that, but by preaching, or recruiting other people to your religion from theirs, you're not REALLY allowing people their religious freedom. Therefore, I believe, that if 'religious freedom' were in effect, no one would know it, because no one would ever talk about their religion. Arguments and debates aside, no matter what anyone says, about god, or about science, or about ANYTING, it has some effect on other peoples' entire psyche and beliefs and all that, even if only on negligible scale.

    Right to Life: Against Abortion and Euthanasia: No. I'm not one of these pro choice assholes, I just don't think that this whole "life" thing is so sacred. I view computers as a form of life. Not carbon life - silicon life. I've got some evidence and well thought out arguments to support it, so it's not like what I'm saying is unfounded.
    Being against Addictive Drugs: LOL. Let 'em take all the drugs they want. If they take enough, they'll die. Otherwise, it doesn't matter.
    Being against Alcohol: Same as above.
    Being against Gambling: No, I'm Satan. I'm all for it.
    Being intolerant to any behavior that may destroy individuals, families, and our culture: I don't really care for this culture (as you can see by my hatred for the above defining principles). I don't really care for any culture. Culture detracts from creativity, and enforces capitalism and racism among other insignificant things. It's one of the greatest hinderances to the acquisition of truth ever created.

    Discrimination as the wisdom of choosing between good and evil: What does that even mean? Using discretion within moral cases? Who decided what morals are anyway? One thing I've noticed is that everyone seems to have vastly differing morals, where things like science - things that can be proven, seem to be agreed upon. There might be debate on the details, but, gravity and the sun keep showing up every morning (yes, I have considered the possibility of solipsism and changing memory - either way, what I remember matches what is happening).
    The Ends justifying the Means: What end? What means? I always figured this was a case by case expression.
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    Abstinence before Marriage It's a good thing, but I don't care either way.
    Fidelity in Marriage Yes. Loyalty.
    Against Pornography I don't care either way.
    Against Homosexual/Bisexual/Transgender behavior NO.
    Patriotism Don't care either way.
    Religious Freedom Yes.
    Right to Life: Against Abortion and Euthanasia Pro-choice.
    Against Addictive Drugs Don't care either way.
    Against Alcohol Don't care either way.
    Against Gambling Yes.
    Intolerant to any behavior that may destroy individuals, families, and our culture. Yeah.
    Discrimination is the wisdom of choosing between good and evil. NO.
    The Ends Justify the Means. Sometimes. I believe in Science.

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    Abstinence before Marriage I don't think it's necessary to wait to have sex until marriage but I do think you should be careful about who you have sex with...basically don't be a male/female slut and use protection.

    Fidelity in Marriage Very important to me, this is what I voted for up top. Maybe because I grew up in a family where my father was not faithful to my mother...it affected me a great deal, had a hard time with it.

    Against Pornography I don't care, just use it in moderation. I dated this guy who loved porn way too much...huge turn off, would never marry someone like that.

    Against Homosexual/Bisexual/Transgender behavior There's nothing wrong with it, it's not hurting anyone. I also believe that homosexuals should be able to marry if they want to.

    Patriotism I'm not very patriotic but have nothing against people who are. There's something a bit silly to me about extreme patriotism though.

    Religious Freedom Absolutely! I feel strongly about this as well!

    Right to Life: Against Abortion and Euthanasia I'm prochoice

    Against Addictive Drugs Yes I'm against addictive drugs, I've seen drugs ruin people's lives. Although if they ever legalized marijuana, I'd be indifferent.

    Against Alcohol In moderation, not a big fan but I do occasionally drink more than I shoud.

    Against Gambling Ugh, have personal experiences again with this in my family. I don't think it should be outlawed but I despise it and stay away from it.

    Intolerant to any behavior that may destroy individuals, families, and our culture. Sure...

    Discrimination is the wisdom of choosing between good and evil. I guess this depends on how one would discriminate against someone. Too vague...

    The Ends Justify the Means. Not always...

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    Abstinence before Marriage
    Stupid. Have as many or as few sexual partners in life as you want but there's no reason to make this a moral value.
    Fidelity in Marriage
    Unless explicitly stated that the relationship is sexually open most people would assume it to be monogamous. I would consider this to be plain old honesty rather than a value in itself.
    Against Pornography
    If consenting adults want to produce porn to be consumed by consenting adults there's no problem. Good stuff.
    Against Homosexual/Bisexual/Transgender behavior
    Nobody's business if you do.
    Patriotism
    Is the same as racism.
    Religious Freedom
    Religion should be wiped out, violently if necessary.
    Right to Life: Against Abortion and Euthanasia
    I'm not just pro-choice, I'm pro-abortion, a woman should have absolute control over her body. When a person chooses to end their life is their business, not yours.
    Against Addictive Drugs
    It's your body. You can chug drain cleaner for all I care but if you get drunk, high, stoned or whatever, lose control of yourself and start causing trouble society will put an end to you.
    Against Alcohol
    Same as above.
    Against Gambling
    Nothing wrong with this. If someone is addicted to something they need help.
    Intolerant to any behavior that may destroy individuals, families, and our culture.
    I'm not sure what to do with this. Some elements of our culture need to be destroyed.
    Discrimination is the wisdom of choosing between good and evil.
    Not sure about this either.
    The Ends Justify the Means.
    Sometimes.

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    The only reason I'm pro-life for promiscuous women (without condom) is because I want them to suffer for their lack of responsibility. Other than that, let's kill babies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    The only reason I'm pro-life for promiscuous women (without condom) is because I want them to suffer for their lack of responsibility. Other than that, let's kill babies!
    I nominate Uberfuhrer for ShitLord of the month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Patriotism: Well, I'm not a patriot. I don't mind the fact that there are such things as patriots. I do mind however these people telling me things like " You gotta get behind the troops, even if you dislike the war"

    Especially dealing with Iraq... I've struggled with these people. I don't think I have any obligation to the troops. 100% of them are volunteers for a war I disagree with. If they want to get killed for a cause they believe in, fine, but don't ask me to support those assholes, because they're doing something I think is terrible. From my vantage point, it would be the same as supporting someone in their crusade against intellectualism or comedy.

    Patriotism, is, I think very stupid, as is Nationalism, Patriotism's ugly pimple stricken cousin.

    Religious Freedom: I have a different definition of religious freedom than most. See, everyone says that people should be allowed to worship as they please. That's fine, and I agree with that, but by preaching, or recruiting other people to your religion from theirs, you're not REALLY allowing people their religious freedom. Therefore, I believe, that if 'religious freedom' were in effect, no one would know it, because no one would ever talk about their religion. Arguments and debates aside, no matter what anyone says, about god, or about science, or about ANYTING, it has some effect on other peoples' entire psyche and beliefs and all that, even if only on negligible scale.
    I pretty much have the same views as you on these two items, although I would phrase it a bit more delicately. I have similar trains of thought re. patriotism/nationalism. And recruiting/spreading the word/missionizing is extremely distasteful to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    The only reason I'm pro-life for promiscuous women (without condom) is because I want them to suffer for their lack of responsibility. Other than that, let's kill babies!
    then what punishment do the irresponsible guys get?

    seriously man, the side effects from the morning after pill are so absolutley miserable that they should be enough of a punishment!!!
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