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  • Abstinence before Marriage

    19 25.68%
  • Fidelity in Marriage

    58 78.38%
  • Being against Pornography

    15 20.27%
  • Being against Homosexual/Bisexual/Transgender behavior

    9 12.16%
  • Patriotism

    12 16.22%
  • Religious Freedom

    67 90.54%
  • Right to Life: Against Abortion and Euthanasia

    19 25.68%
  • Being against Addictive Drugs

    27 36.49%
  • Being against Alcohol

    10 13.51%
  • Being against Gambling

    14 18.92%
  • Being intolerant to any behavior that may destroy individuals, families, and our culture.

    15 20.27%
  • Discrimination as the wisdom of choosing between good and evil.

    9 12.16%
  • The Ends justifying the Means.

    10 13.51%
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    (and whatever is starting to wonder if her monitoring of what people are saying here is a form of self-torture

    nah- it's more like staring at a car accident! )
    “Oh, we're always alright. You remember that. We happen to other people.” -Terry Pratchett

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I do not understand why people make fun of me for my views.
    And yet this piece of understanding is the key to so much in your life that you find problematic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    And yet this piece of understanding is the key to so much in your life that you find problematic.
    Now I'm getting wired up again. Explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Now I'm getting wired up again. Explain.
    Understanding why people make fun of you for your views would occur naturally as part of normal social interaction with a quality peer group...and as this understanding grew, you would also modify your views, and fewer people would make fun of you, and your peer group would expand, and you'd find that you have common ground with people who like you, and sooner or later you'd get laid by someone you love and it wouldn't be the be-all and end-all of your existence because the love is more important to you than the getting laid.

    But this avenue appears closed to you, for reasons I confess I do not understand, because I don't know your story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Now I'm getting wired up again. Explain.
    It's a painful lesson, but part of being human is realizing that you need others to live and to become a better person. Learning to accept and understand criticism and changing the way you behave to accommodate others is what it means to be an adult. And that is a value I wish I had come across much earlier in my life.

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    What do we mean by "live?" I'm alive right now, so what do you mean by "to live," exactly?

    What I see is people bashing me because I share different viewpoints.

    And why change my views? Couldn't I also get others to change theirs? Or better yet, couldn't others also respect and try to understand my viewpoints rather than call me "ignorant?" Couldn't they accept me for my independent views?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    What do we mean by "live?" I'm alive right now, so what do you mean by "to live," exactly?
    To live means to get the most of out of life. It means to enjoy your time here and to learn and grow as a human being.

    What I see is people bashing me because I share different viewpoints.
    What you see is a rationalization because you are afraid to admit that you may be wrong. To be human means to be fallible, and accepting that you can't be perfect is the first step to growing and becoming something better.

    And why change my views? Couldn't I also get others to change theirs? Or better yet, couldn't others also respect and try to understand my viewpoints rather than call me "ignorant?" Couldn't they accept me for my independent views?
    Who you are isn't defined by what you believe, but how you act on those views. People judge behavior not perception. It's poor behavior that gets you teased and ridiculed. Changing aspects of your behavior to accommodate others is a sign of maturity, just as much as acting out is a sign of immaturity.

    As far as your views, you can believe anything. As I said before, if you act on them, you may meet opposition. When you don't act on them, they can't hurt anyone but yourself. And that is exactly what happens when you close your mind and don't allow you ideas, thoughts, and feelings to be reborn each day through your experiences with others. Those perceptions begin to stagnate because they are not being tuned to the real world, and you ultimately lose your ability to see the bigger picture and apply your ideas. Views need to be allowed to evolve, because the world is not any more perfect than human beings are, and it too changes constantly.

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    Why does the world place importance on growth? I do not understand.

    Why is it so hard for me to grow? And why is it important? Why is it so hard for me to "live" as you have described it to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Why does the world place importance on growth? I do not understand.
    There is birth, there is growth, and there is death. That is life. Whether it has anymore significant meaning than that is the topic for another thread. But when you are not being born or dying, then you are growing. If you are choosing not to grow then you are not a part of life, you are nothing, not even death. That kind of null existence is meaningless and purposeless, like a boat left out to drift on a lake. And just like a drifting boat being tossed around directionless with the movements of the water, you will end up being jostled around by the movements of the real world, with no aims or destination.

    Why is it so hard for me to grow? And why is it important?
    Why is purpose and meaning so important? For someone who asks so many questions, you should know the answer to that.

    Why is it so hard for me to "live" as you have described it to be?
    Because it is hard for everyone. As I said before, it is a painful lesson. We all wish we could be children forever, but one day we have to take responsibility for our own lives. It's hard work being human, and even harder still to be a good one, but to choose to be anything less is a fate worse than death.

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    Abstinence before Marriage: No, don't think it's necessary.
    Fidelity in Marriage: Yes, but I think this is basic.
    Being against Pornography: It's not wrong but I don't care for it.
    Being against Homosexual/Bisexual/Transgender behavior: No.
    Patriotism: Good country, but not a patriot--some things I don't stand for.
    Religious Freedom: Yes.
    Right to Life: Against Abortion and Euthanasia: No..."right to life"...
    Being against Addictive Drugs" No.
    Being against Alcohol" No.
    Being against Gambling" No. The past three are stupid ideas, but they aren't wrong.
    Being intolerant to any behavior that may destroy individuals, families, and our culture.: Wa-hey, slanted word-choice! NO.
    Discrimination as the wisdom of choosing between good and evil. "Discrimination"...good/evil? Voted no.
    The Ends justifying the Means. Not always, but I voted no.
    Still using a needle to break apart a grain of sand.

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