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    Doing something that makes something else happen.
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    Maybe it is about doing something with your knowledge.
    or executing your desires.

    I still don't understand what satisfaction I get from changing reality.
    It is not always about money. Our ancestors did not work for money before money was invented.

    Of course survival is one of the reasons that drive us to work.
    But I am trying to understand why do we have the drive to change reality.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

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    Or maybe there is no such thing called work.
    It is just a label we create when we are forced to do something we hate.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

    "In this Caesar there are many Mariuses"~Sulla

    Conquer your inner demons first before you conquer the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    Or maybe there is no such thing called work.
    It is just a label we create when we are forced to do something we hate.
    Perhaps you are talking about industrial work.

    Industrial work is done to the rhythm of the machine and the clock. Industrial work is not done at our inclination or to our rhythms. No wonder we hate it.

    However we are now moving into the post-industrial society, where creativity is more valuable than conformity.

    And creativity cannot be forced, indeed the creative individual must first be free in order to create.

    So that if we are lucky, we do what we love.

    We turn from menials and professionals into amateurs.

    And as you know the word, 'amateur', comes from the Latin, 'to love'.

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    W = Fd

    W = deltaKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    W = Fd

    W = deltaKE
    I am not looking for physics definition.
    I am questioning what work is for the human race.
    Why do we humans exert energy to change the enviroment?
    Do animals work? Why do humans do work, what is the underlying motivation?
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

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    Work is something necessary to live.. but by far the most tragic thing about life for many. If they are not doing what they like, then they are basically investing the majority of their life, thoughts, and energy into complete bullshit that has nothing to do with them. So... I don't blame "non-workers". Some people slack off so they can invest time in their own, more valuable bullshit. Hopefully they can eventually make money from that too. But probably not.

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    Work is something I dont enjoy doing. If I can make something fun then it stops being work.
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Sure, Charles Darwin never worked and we named a Capital City after him.

    And the Ancient Greeks regarded paid work to be unsuitable for free men.

    It is only the Protestant Work Ethic that changed all that, and made work not only cool but mandatory.

    Fortunately scarcity has been overcome in the West and developed nations, so now work is optional.

    But the Protestant Work Ethic arose to address scarcity. And the Protestant Work Ethic has been so successful that we have overcome scarcity for the first time in human history.

    But in the midst of plenty the Protestant Work Ethic is still brandished over our heads - as though we were still living in scarcity.

    So the Protestants are incredibly powerful because they have been incredibly successful. So successful that they still live in our heads.

    Perhaps it is time to listen to other voices.
    While that may all be true in the West, Asia is marked by the Confucian work ethic (the counterpart to Confucius was Lao Tzu btw... who, in a way, can be compared to anarchist viewpoints that challenge Protestantism). So there seems to be a drive to think this way, regardless of Protestantism.

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    Work is the label we give to activities we don't enjoy.

    The first step is to stop calling it work.
    "If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. But do not care to convince him. Men will believe what they see. Let them see."
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