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    This thread is not intended as a platform to argue against God or other deities.

    I just want to talk about how those of us who have discarded the idea of deities can still enjoy the benefits of divinity.

    First off we could establish if there are any benefits to interacting with a divine idea.

    Seems pretty likely there are, but let's discuss it.

    Interaction with an idea of perfection offers a couple things up to me immediately. First off it gives an unexhaustible source of self criticism by comparison. Secondly it paints reality in a sort of inconsequential light, which could be great for dealing with problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkrow View Post
    First off we could establish if there are any benefits to interacting with a divine idea.
    I definatly think there are. The source of those benefits can be traced to lack of understanding.

    We're a learning species. Young in the ways of the universe. Even though logic states that our circle of life is nothing more than living, breeding and then dying. We are evolved into a state in which we developped free thought. And we've since learned that the ability of free thought has been the very foundation of many a discovery and search for understanding/knowledge.

    And although the path of understanding, due to our limited perspective, has been overly biased and subjective. You can't argue that through free thought and seeking understanding, thus by dabbling in the divine. (That which we do not know.) Has helped us grow in our understanding, and push the boundaries of our very existance. However subjective it may be.

    And through philosophy we see that we have the capability of being or becoming a deciding factor of how everything, even nature, is governed on a celestial scale. And that we can put meaning to life in terms of progression and striving a set of goals for ourselves.

    In that sense, I think the divine can and still has much to offer us in the future. I can't say how much of the factual scientific world can still be explained through our perspective, but I do know that new discoveries are made by looking outside of the box. By pushing the limits of logic further and into the philosophic world.

    Basicly what I'm saying is that the future is in the hands of the open minded atheists. Who are least likely to accept and live with nothing more than already existing fundaments and most likely to seek new heights.

    That is pretty much what you meant right?
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    Yeah.

    How defined do you think our guiding idea should be?

    I mean will it serve its function just by being simple "perfection"?
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    I swear I'm not a definition junkie, but how about a definition of deity vs. divinity?

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    Deity=Supremely powerful conscious being
    Divinity=Supremely perfect concept
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    Quote Originally Posted by murkrow View Post
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    Deity=Supremely powerful conscious being
    Divinity=Supremely perfect concept
    So the Christian God would be considered a Divine Deity by both definitions of the word?

    Also, would divinity mean 'Absolute Truth' in some way?
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    I think you could be talking about the same thing.

    It makes me think of the saying that if religion didnt exist it would be necessary to invent one, humans have spiritual drives which are more than simple ego defences, I think once people are done with the revolt against God as disembodied parental authority, negligent parent, the unfairness of the universe etc. etc. they'll eventually need to satisfy that spiritual drive that'll inevitably resurface.

    Unless they turn to drugs, alcohol, addiction, compulsion, obsession or any of the other maladaptive norms that're popular and popularised by the economy and culture they live in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyward View Post
    So the Christian God would be considered a Divine Deity by both definitions of the word?

    Also, would divinity mean 'Absolute Truth' in some way?
    Yeah God satisfies both definitions, Hades only satisfies the Deity one.

    Absolute Truth... I guess? I don't see the big huff huff about absolute truth, it's absolutely true that I think these post-its on my desk are yellow.
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