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    Listen, science is the king of the Earth as we know it. If it weren't for science, then we wouldn't be spending countless hours on this forum arguing about ridiculous nonsense, as there'd be no fiber optics, and we'd all be dead of smallpox or some equivalently dreadful disease.

    Science gave us medicine, yummy food, video games (tehe, Zelda), and better yet, the ability to screw without popping out a kid every year. So if science wants to hold a magnifying glass above our heads and shoot sunbeams, then so be it. At this point, the least we can do for science is humbly grant it the power to do whatever the fuck it desires, even if its wants are sensationally apocalyptic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Listen, science is the king of the Earth as we know it. If it weren't for science, then we wouldn't be spending countless hours on this forum arguing about ridiculous nonsense, as there'd be no fiber optics, and we'd all be dead of smallpox or some equivalently dreadful disease.

    Science gave us medicine, yummy food, video games (tehe, Zelda), and better yet, the ability to screw without popping out a kid every year. So if science wants to hold a magnifying glass above our heads and shoot sunbeams, then so be it. At this point, the least we can do for science is humbly grant it the power to do whatever the fuck it desires, even if its wants are sensationally apocalyptic.
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    Science FTW. Really, sometimes, it doesn't get enough credit.

    It could potentially be used to destroy us, but more than likely, it will be what saves us, time and time again.

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    Science in itself can't do anything, it's the scientist and person behind it that can do good or harm. Obviously a mad scientist can end us all just as much as a mad theologian, but a book on chemistry doesn't explode by itself the same way a book on religion doesn't squirt holy water on you!

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    Timeless is a proponent of the NRA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Timeless is a proponent of the NRA.

    (Listening to Metallica...)

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    "Science" is not some sort of force that opposes religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feops View Post
    "Science" is not some sort of force that opposes religion.
    No, that would be Satan, wielding Evolution in one hand and Materialism in the other.

    I tend to be more scared of religion, actually, because it is SO resistant to modification. People can just do and say and believe crazy-ass things that end up hurting a lot of people and foster attitudes that are relationally destructive... and it's hard to get your hands on it and nearly impossible to have someone reevaluate.

    Meanwhile, science actually has self-correcting mechanisms built into it just by definition. Look at any discipline and you'll actually see large flips that have occurred within them over the space of only a few decades. So as far as scientific ideology/frameworks go, they DO change if challenged sufficiently.

    The main fear with science seems to be tinkering with things without really understanding the long-term implications, whether it's letting plastics/chemicals slowly seep into the food chain or a drug meant for a good purpose might cause unexpected long-term harm, or... well, just the typical "big bang boom bomb" scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    The main fear with science seems to be tinkering with things without really understanding the long-term implications
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    The LHC conversations always remind me of this.


    Excellent post Katsuni btw.


    Ultimately, people like to blow the dangers of science out of proportion. In the words of Wilco, "Every generation thinks it's the last, thinks it's the end of the world."
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    I dont think anyone is blowing the dangers of science out of proportion, if anything I think the opposite happens and religion, unless its some sort of new age spiritualism, has its negative or harmful traits exaggerated.

    If you consider the popular and literary attitudes towards science years ago, for instance Jekyl and Hyde, Frankenstein, Burke and Hare, literary as well as in fact, or more recently Mengele's experimentation on people and BF Skinner's Behaviourism, mainly in fact, there was a more balance perspective. People were able to see and know "mad science" and there was nothing like the consequences then that there are now, the impacts both humanitarian and ecological of Cernobyl (spelling), mile island etc. out way anything that miracle sites or pilgrimages could have wrought (crusades and inquisitions are a different matter and reflecting a human/temporal need rather than divine grace or true revelation they do have their "rational" or secular equivalents).

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