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    Default Harden not your hearts

    Could this be the greatest insight ever?

    I think so.

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    Yes, hard to remember it at times where it feels bruised and in need of protection, but best in the long run. I think so.
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    Yes, this is one of my ideals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Could this be the greatest insight ever?
    It could be, but isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    It could be, but isn't.
    ...That.

    So why do you think it is the greatest, Lark?
    (As opposed to second-greatest?)
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    That seemed like an over-vague statement to start a very long, very fluffy thread; please clarify. And for the posts afterward, you two are soooo INTPs.
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    The original phrase, comes from Hebrews (3:7-19 - and various other references). There may be some confusion with the translation from the Greek (hardened=seared). The original meaning was a warning not to reject God, as the Israelites in the wilderness did. Other references include Nabal being mean with his tributes to David; Solomon suggesting "hardeneth not thy neck" (an interesting one) or suffer the divine smiting you deserve.

    In other words, the aphorism has mutated into something other than it's original Biblical meaning. The common interpretation seems to urge people to be less mean-spirited, but this is not backed up in the original text (whose translations from the Greek may themselves be questionable).

    The logic of having a permanantly "soft" heart is that you'll be taken for a chump quite a lot, hoodwinked rather easily and give in to every doe-eyed scoundrel that scrounges the price of a coffee.

    Better to have a hard heart now and again than pave your road to hell with good intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    The original phrase, comes from Hebrews (3:7-19 - and various other references). There may be some confusion with the translation from the Greek (hardened=seared). The original meaning was not to reject God, as the Israelites in the wilderness did.
    Yup. Used there + in connection with Pharaoh (who originally hardened his heart, then JHWH hardened it for him); and in the NT where Jesus mentioned that divorce was acceptable in ancient Israel as part of the Law because "men's hearts were hard" but not necessarily because God preferred divorce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bananatrombones View Post
    Better to have a hard heart now and again than pave your road to hell with good intentions.
    I like this for greatest insight evah.

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    No, says the ENFJ.
    The fact that it is vague makes me contemplate what it implies. If you are not hardening your heart then it is likely you are hardening something else. Mind, perhaps? That tends to be the best "vs. heart" opposition.

    Neither is good to let harden, yet neither is good to leave completely permeable.
    On the other hand, when the implications are viewed in a positive light then it can be a great insight.
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