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Another Dimension(s)?

ReadingRainbows

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A Two-Time Universe? Physicist Explores How Second Dimension of Time Could Unify Physics Laws

(This is the text I found with non - religious references)

God Standard Time

(This is the text I found with many religious references)

Einstein mastered gravity with his theory of general relativity, and the equations of quantum theory capture every nuance of matter and other forces, from the attractive power of magnets to the subatomic glue that holds an atom’s nucleus together.

But the laws can’t be complete. Einstein’s theory of gravity and quantum theory don’t fit together. Some piece is missing in the picture puzzle of physical reality.

Bars thinks one of the missing pieces is a hidden dimension of time.

Bizarre is not a powerful enough word to describe this idea, but it is a powerful idea nevertheless. With two times, Bars believes, many of the mysteries of today’s laws of physics may disappear.
 

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Dreams, anti-world, anti-matter, astral-projection, 'ghosts'. These have a lot to do with other dimensions.
 

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I always find the theories of time manipulation extremely intriguing.
 

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Time is only a perception
 

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But if you can somehow manipulate the flow of it...the possibilities would be endless.
The possibilities of all this are endless.
This might end the age old god debate ;)
 

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True. But this won't change people's views on it though. Their ego will stop them.
 

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Very true. Can't really do much about it.
 

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Time is only a perception

Yes and no. While time is dependent on your individual reference frame and your "perceptions", it is a fundamental aspect of reality. If space is real, time is real. And to be honest, EVERYTHING is only a perception.

But if you can somehow manipulate the flow of it...the possibilities would be endless.
The possibilities of all this are endless.
This might end the age old god debate ;)

You can do this already. While you cannot change the flow's direction, you can change the rate at which it passes. Just sprint to the end of your street. Congratulations, you've slowed down time :cheese:
 

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You can do this already. While you cannot change the flow's direction, you can change the rate at which it passes. Just sprint to the end of your street. Congratulations, you've slowed down time :cheese:

Actually, technically you didn't. You slowed down time from the perspective of the ones standing still, but time did not change to you at all. :D

Relativity is a bitch. :D
 

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Actually, technically you didn't. You slowed down time from the perspective of the ones standing still, but time did not change to you at all. :D

Relativity is a bitch. :D

Well, for YOU it doesn't, but for everything around you it seems like it did :)
 

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Yes and no. While time is dependent on your individual reference frame and your "perceptions", it is a fundamental aspect of reality. If space is real, time is real. And to be honest, EVERYTHING is only a perception.
You are at present. In the dimension we are living time does not exist. Present is always happening. Future does not exist. Past does not exist. Therefore time does not exist... We only perceive it to exist and that is how we live. Everything only happens at present. At one point.
 

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You are at present. In the dimension we are living time does not exist. Present is always happening. Future does not exist. Past does not exist. Therefore time does not exist... We only perceive it to exist and that is how we live. Everything only happens at present. At one point.

While timelines do not "exist" per se [you are correct about the present being the only thing that has a "real" component] the elusive concept that time is "the rate at which stuff happens" is a real thing and is intertwined with reality. I can see your point though.

However, if time was just a concept created the perceiving mind, why does it respond to energy and matter distributions in space?
 

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However, if time was just a concept created the perceiving mind, why does it respond to energy and matter distributions in space?

Actually, it doesn't. It depends on how you want to define time though I suppose.

But to me, that which responds, isn't time. It's space that does the responding. Time is just a measurement tool for sensing differences in space through depth..
 

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there must be atleast one dimention where everything is one or maybe its the dimention of time and everything was one before the big bang(or what ever happened). iv allso thought about if this universe is just a one small part of something way bigger, like an kind of atom in something really big and maybe theres more worlds inside each particle of this world. or maybe these different worlds would be inside each other in some really weird way. maybe this universum is actually expanding because each possible particle movement would create new world and the world is actually inside each particle of this world and we are actually inside the past time kind of

enyway, so much is unknown and nothing can be ever proven right on this scale, so you can only imagine

edit.

wohoo 666 posts :devil:
 

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Actually, it doesn't. It depends on how you want to define time though I suppose.

But to me, that which responds, isn't time. It's space that does the responding. Time is just a measurement tool for sensing differences in space through depth..

Time is the "rate at which stuff happens". Or the 4th dimensional component for describing position in 4 dimensions. Or the component of how fast you are traveling along the 4th dimension vector.

Particles take longer to decay traveling at near light speed than they do "at rest." This is quantifiable and can be empirically tested over and over again. It has a mathematical framework that describes this process.

I don't really understand what your definition of time is.
 

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there must be atleast one dimention where everything is one or maybe its the dimention of time

Universe, One construct, everything. A dimension.

and everything was one before the big bang(or what ever happened).

Nothing, no construct, everything. A dimension.

Dimensions are mere perceptions anyhow, when you think about it. They're based on nothing more but our senses. It's a method of defining. It's not something touchable. :)
 

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Time is the "rate at which stuff happens". Or the 4th dimensional component for describing position in 4 dimensions. Or the component of how fast you are traveling along the 4th dimension vector.

Particles take longer to decay traveling at near light speed than they do "at rest." This is quantifiable and can be empirically tested over and over again. It has a mathematical framework that describes this process.

I don't really understand what your definition of time is.

The same, that time isn't a physical aspect of science, but space changes, and time is a tool for defining that change.

So we have the same opinion, just a difference in perspective. See the irony though, pretty cool. :D
 
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