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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Actually, technically you didn't. You slowed down time from the perspective of the ones standing still, but time did not change to you at all.

    Relativity is a bitch.
    Well, for YOU it doesn't, but for everything around you it seems like it did



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Well, for YOU it doesn't, but for everything around you it seems like it did
    Okay, now go back and tell them you slowed down time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Okay, now go back and tell them you slowed down time.
    But that's the thing! Both observers will think the other slowed down



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Yes and no. While time is dependent on your individual reference frame and your "perceptions", it is a fundamental aspect of reality. If space is real, time is real. And to be honest, EVERYTHING is only a perception.
    You are at present. In the dimension we are living time does not exist. Present is always happening. Future does not exist. Past does not exist. Therefore time does not exist... We only perceive it to exist and that is how we live. Everything only happens at present. At one point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    You are at present. In the dimension we are living time does not exist. Present is always happening. Future does not exist. Past does not exist. Therefore time does not exist... We only perceive it to exist and that is how we live. Everything only happens at present. At one point.
    While timelines do not "exist" per se [you are correct about the present being the only thing that has a "real" component] the elusive concept that time is "the rate at which stuff happens" is a real thing and is intertwined with reality. I can see your point though.

    However, if time was just a concept created the perceiving mind, why does it respond to energy and matter distributions in space?



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    However, if time was just a concept created the perceiving mind, why does it respond to energy and matter distributions in space?
    Actually, it doesn't. It depends on how you want to define time though I suppose.

    But to me, that which responds, isn't time. It's space that does the responding. Time is just a measurement tool for sensing differences in space through depth..
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    there must be atleast one dimention where everything is one or maybe its the dimention of time and everything was one before the big bang(or what ever happened). iv allso thought about if this universe is just a one small part of something way bigger, like an kind of atom in something really big and maybe theres more worlds inside each particle of this world. or maybe these different worlds would be inside each other in some really weird way. maybe this universum is actually expanding because each possible particle movement would create new world and the world is actually inside each particle of this world and we are actually inside the past time kind of

    enyway, so much is unknown and nothing can be ever proven right on this scale, so you can only imagine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Actually, it doesn't. It depends on how you want to define time though I suppose.

    But to me, that which responds, isn't time. It's space that does the responding. Time is just a measurement tool for sensing differences in space through depth..
    Time is the "rate at which stuff happens". Or the 4th dimensional component for describing position in 4 dimensions. Or the component of how fast you are traveling along the 4th dimension vector.

    Particles take longer to decay traveling at near light speed than they do "at rest." This is quantifiable and can be empirically tested over and over again. It has a mathematical framework that describes this process.

    I don't really understand what your definition of time is.



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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    there must be atleast one dimention where everything is one or maybe its the dimention of time
    Universe, One construct, everything. A dimension.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    and everything was one before the big bang(or what ever happened).
    Nothing, no construct, everything. A dimension.

    Dimensions are mere perceptions anyhow, when you think about it. They're based on nothing more but our senses. It's a method of defining. It's not something touchable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Time is the "rate at which stuff happens". Or the 4th dimensional component for describing position in 4 dimensions. Or the component of how fast you are traveling along the 4th dimension vector.

    Particles take longer to decay traveling at near light speed than they do "at rest." This is quantifiable and can be empirically tested over and over again. It has a mathematical framework that describes this process.

    I don't really understand what your definition of time is.
    The same, that time isn't a physical aspect of science, but space changes, and time is a tool for defining that change.

    So we have the same opinion, just a difference in perspective. See the irony though, pretty cool.
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