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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    I don't know, a lot of religions promise spiritual immortality, which, logically, seems like a better promise than any your sports team is going to give you. It all comes down to whether you think it can make good on that.
    Whether or not human consciousness survives beyond death is inherently unprovable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert165 View Post
    tribal? heck yes. what could be more tribal than saying you are god's choosen people
    Hey, Jews are at least honest about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Whether or not human consciousness survives beyond death is inherently unprovable.
    So, there you go.

    However, whether you wear your lucky socks to a football game makes your team win, well, it's kind of similar in idea, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Hey, Jews are at least honest about it.
    yeah, i dont think htey beleive in hell for unbelievers like the christians do though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert165 View Post
    yeah, i dont think htey beleive in hell for unbelievers like the christians do though
    I was talking about many translations of Jewish texts refers to Israelites as "tribes of Israel", but yeah, yours is good, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    I was talking about many translations of Jewish texts refers to Israelites as "tribes of Israel", but yeah, yours is good, too.
    yeah, even though a bit tribal and totaly barbaric, at least the view of god in the OT is pretty straitforward and non contradictory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    So, there you go.

    However, whether you wear your lucky socks to a football game makes your team win, well, it's kind of similar in idea, isn't it?
    Yup. At least football riots end in the deaths of only a dozen or so, maximum, and generally don't wreck major infrastructure, like skyscrapers or rapid transit tunnels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Yup. At least football riots end in the deaths of only a dozen or so, maximum, and generally don't wreck major infrastructure, like skyscrapers or rapid transit tunnels.
    If you allow them to supercede religion, they will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    If you allow them to supercede religion, they will.
    That's a fairly compelling justification for religion: "without it, people will justify tribal warfare by other means!"

    Come on, we already have the nation-state and political ideology for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    If you allow them to supercede religion, they will.
    Interesting idea.

    Do sports really promote a kind of ethos?
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