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    Senior Member milkyway2's Avatar
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    See now this thread pisses me off and I'm not gonna come to it anymore!

    I think religious people piss me off so much because I'm angry at them all for lying to me when I was a kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkyway2 View Post
    I think religious people piss me off so much because I'm angry at them all for lying to me when I was a kid.
    And atheist parents don't lie to their children?
    -Carefully taking sips from the Fire Hose of Knowledge

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    Ok athiests too I'm sorry. Any parent that tells their child that they know whether or not God exists or not is a liar. How hard is it to say "I don't know." That's the truth. None of us know anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkyway2 View Post
    None of us know anything.
    ^How far would you take this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkyway2 View Post
    See now this thread pisses me off and I'm not gonna come to it anymore!
    Wow.

    I think religious people piss me off so much because I'm angry at them all for lying to me when I was a kid.
    I can grasp that, I'm still mad at some of the things religious people have held over me too.

    But we still have to come to terms with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl View Post
    ^How far would you take this?
    REAL FAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkyway2 View Post
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    It's just like as Chesterton stated: "It's the first effect of not believing in God that you lose your common sense."

    Even when Socrates declared he didn't know anything to the Oracle, he did so on the grounds that only God posseses knowledge. By contrast, man in his incomplete understanding of the world is at best a lover of knowledge and wisdom("philosopher").

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    I dont know how this thread has provoked the strength of feeling it has in some people, I'm not visiting it anymore because it got dull.

    There's only so far you can take any one topic before it becomes pantomine, "oh yes it is!", "oh no it isnt!" style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    There's only so far you can take any one topic before it becomes pantomine, "oh yes it is!", "oh no it isnt!" style.
    Like 99% of the threads, thanks to people's drone collctive buzzing on message boards :steam:
    I'm not clever enough to have a signature.

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    It's probably because INTs, in general, tend to apply analytical reasoning to everything in a vicious manner that we tend to dislike church. Plus, as you said, we're not very social or generally optimistic (as in fact, we tend to be very cynical). Thus, church and the superficial smiling and false emotions which go along with it just tends to throw us off. We INTPs generally aren't made to see life from some false rosy glow; we want to know what is truly driving the world. Hence, logic tends to be used like a knife to cut away at anything and everything which doesn't add up. Therefore, we can totally reason away all of the happy aspects of life which simply ultimately lack real meaning. This may lead to nihilism, or something similar, but always something realistic and based on what logically exists. So we just tend to want to be around intelligent persons, as we are—not a bunch of rather "mindlessly social" drones who actually do tend to believe anything they are told.

    At least that's how I tend to view the INTPs general relationship to society. I've been there, done that. I destroyed the concept of God, internally, through logic. I've reasoned away all of the fancy wishful thinking hopeful perceptions a human being could have toward this world (which I've come to conclude is absurd and meaningless). I've decided people are generally morons (as George Carlin did). So a church is the LAST place I ever want to be, truly wasting my time. I could masturbate, or play a few video games, instead. And life's more pleasurable and less logically dissonant that way.

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