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    Is it unethical to kill a man if he is a willing sacrifice to the Almighty One?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinosaur View Post
    Is it unethical to kill a man if he is a willing sacrifice to the Almighty One?
    That is an extremely good question.
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    I need to know by 8 pm tonight, for reasons I'd rather not get into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinosaur View Post
    Is it unethical to kill a man if he is a willing sacrifice to the Almighty One?
    It is an important question - but not particularly difficult to answer. I would say yes, it is unethical. Just because someone powerful tells you to kill someone doesn't mean you should do it. If God demands sacrifices, then fuck him. We don't have to sink to his level if we don't want to.

    That having been said, we can never *know* that we are actually sacrificing to the "Almighty One," because if he appeared to any of us, or merely whispered into our heads, the odds would be a million to one that it is a hallucination anyway.

    In that light, it is also unethical to kill someone to appease the voices in your head, which was precisely Abraham's plan.

    Edit: In after 8pm. Sorry.
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    If you're making an argument against monotheistic ethics, it's only proper to compare them to polytheistic ethics, not "secular" ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Is that like Solitary Walkers evil make up wearing twin or something?
    He's Spinoza. But yes, I did do this to tease SolitaryWalker. Who knows whether or not he found it funny though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinosaur View Post
    Is it unethical to kill a man if he is a willing sacrifice to the Almighty One?
    In this society formed by the Enlightenment, it is an offence under the Criminal Law. And the Australian Federal Police will hunt you down and bring you before the Criminal Court where you will be judged by your peers and if found guilty, sentenced to life in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    If you're making an argument against monotheistic ethics, it's only proper to compare them to polytheistic ethics, not "secular" ones.
    You're right. I should have said "Theistic Ethics," or changed the name of the Title entirely, however, I wrote the post on a whim, so it didn't really turn out how I was expecting. I should have written the title last, but I used monotheism for obvious, practical reasons.

    Edit: Now I'm curious about your hair color, Jennifer. I had this nice mental picture of you and now it's all messed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into It View Post
    You're right. I should have said "Theistic Ethics," or changed the name of the Title entirely, however, I wrote the post on a whim, so it didn't really turn out how I was expecting. I should have written the title last, but I used monotheism for obvious, practical reasons.
    Well, it's because the only thing I could think of when reading your thread was "wasn't everyone doing it at the time?" Maybe Jesus was just going with it because it was trendy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into It View Post
    That having been said, we can never *know* that we are actually sacrificing to the "Almighty One," because if he appeared to any of us, or merely whispered into our heads, the odds would be a million to one that it is a hallucination anyway.

    In that light, it is also unethical to kill someone to appease the voices in your head, which was precisely Abraham's plan.
    If you read, "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind", by Julian Jaynes, you may reach the conclusion that hearing the voice of God was once a normal part of social life.

    However today, we regard hearing the voice of God as a sign of schizophrenia.

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