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    That is it! Im gonna be a terrorist for MBTI Juuuuuuuuuggggggg!

    (actually all good things are turned to shit so F doms can be manipulated into what T doms want them to do)
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    Quote Originally Posted by spamtar View Post
    (actually all good things are turned to shit so F doms can be manipulated into what T doms want them to do)
    HERE HERE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    So what do Islam and MBTI have in common?

    Well, both MBTI and Islam are anti the Enlightenment. Both Islamic and MBTI thinking pre-date the Enlightenment. In other words both MBTI and Islam are intuitive rather than literate and counter-intuitive.
    And being intuitive is half the appeal of both MBTI and Islam.

    And neither MBTI nor Islam is open to rational discussion anymore than is astrology.
    Wow,
    You know, I do understand what you are trying to talk about. Especially the anti enlightenment and intuitive part.

    But,
    What is your intention of pointing these out to others? You seem to want to explain something, but your lack of focus is taking you somewhere which is nowhere.

    Why don't you start a thread on this subject, people would understand what you are trying to say. And it is a much better action that shooting arrows in the dark.

    Start a thread Victor. I want to hear what you are trying to say.

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    lol victor is concerned about lack of openness to rational discussion

    riiiiiiight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curzon View Post
    Islam, definitely is one of the most misinterpreted religions in the world.
    Don't believe me?
    Watch news............ Boooooooooooooooom!

    "There goes another"

    Anyway, have you ever noticed how MBTI has and is been interpreted?
    Misinterpreted here and there don't you think?

    It's not that the theory is incorrect. It's the interpretations.

    "Am I a INTJ, am I a ISFJ?"

    Are common questions we all ask. "But how could I be a INTJ if I have obvious Ne?. I must be a INTP then"

    An INFJ would never do that.
    An ISTP would never hug me.
    An ESFJ would never understand.



    You see what is happening?
    The important thing to keep in mind is that shadow and psyche were important to Jung and its how he accounted for individuals behaving in ways which were contrary to the personality profile they had, which Jung thought was innate and unchangeable too, not that plastic or flexible.

    So it could be denial or disownership of the shadow traits, unconscious and shadow over riding the conscious and psyche, which accounts for those personality profile exhibiting the traits of other personalities.

    Then off course there's the sociological, cultural, anthropological and other social accounts for individual behaviour, whatever you believe I think that interpersonal social interaction has a powerful influence on innate character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Well, both MBTI and Islam are anti the Enlightenment. Both Islamic and MBTI thinking pre-date the Enlightenment. In other words both MBTI and Islam are intuitive rather than literate and counter-intuitive.

    And being intuitive is half the appeal of both MBTI and Islam.

    And neither MBTI nor Islam is open to rational discussion anymore than is astrology.
    In its inception, Islam was very pro science and knowledge. A lot of mathematics and other science comes from Arabic Islamic states during the European dark ages. While we are at it, the dark ages were also not really anti-enlightenment. The dark age churches were probably more of a light house for education and knowledge. The dark ages probably had more to do with the fall of civilization than religion. Similarly, Islam is not inherently anti-knowledge, its the fact that they did not rapidly progress since then, and now view the outside intrusion as an attack from outsiders. Outsiders could be secular or religious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Islam is a political religion that ... And neither MBTI nor Islam is open to rational discussion anymore than is astrology.

    Yawn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    Well you've obviously never been to the middle east before. I believe Curzon is right. And you are one of those who misinterpret it. I have had many muslim friends, had lived in the middle east for a section of my life and had studied a great deal of religion. In conclusion, I have to say, what you're saying is quite ignorant.

    Religions are interpreted generally by the people who claim to practice them. I have no problem with people practicing their own religion. I do have a problem with people confusing other people with a religion. Get your facts straight.

    Love u man. so true

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    Quote Originally Posted by compulsiverambler View Post
    There's definitely more of a tendency than to do this with Muslims than to do it with Christians. I loathe much of what's in Muslim holy texts, just as I loathe much of what's in the Bible (by the way, the Bible too commands the stoning of homosexuals and many other kinds of people, but because they're in the ingroup and therefore not viewed as homogenous, no one assumes that all Christians and Jews therefore must think stoning people is good), but I know that as the majority of Western Christians don't seem to know or care about most of what the Bible actually says, there's no rational reason to assume most Western Muslims know or believe literally what's in the Koran and Hadiths.

    All four Muslims I've been friends with LIKE how liberal Europe is, that people can dress how they want and practice whichever religion they want, and had no time for the idea of forcing religion down people's throats via violence or even preaching as they didn't believe that you could go to Hell for not choosing the right religion. That's more of a live-and-let-live attitude than a lot of Western Christians have.
    Agreed

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