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    I'm Ni-dominant, and of that i'm more certain than about these four-letter codes or numbers.
    I've been thinking about existential things for a long time, and in truth I do feel quite insignificant.

    Places in the universe with matter so dense that a teaspoon full of it is heavier than our solar system?
    Dark matter? Supermassive black holes? Supernovas?
    Somehow it seems we're just a fluke in this chaos, without apparent purpose.

    I wonder if we can create a purpose? Or if we're just like a viral infection, polluting and destroying our planet.
    Maybe changing mentality and ways, and getting off this rock to achieve a galactic civilization is our long-term goal?

    The world needs cooperation, the ideal communist society. We're not there biologically or mentally speaking, but we can strive.
    Imagine building huge ships and space stations without any actual material costs because there are no private enterprises, no countries etc?
    Anything would be possible.
    That is probably one of our evolutionary goals.

    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Ya know, the kind where you think to yourself "Why am I here? I can't really come up with a rationale for the continuation of my existence, so why does my life continue?" Do you feel like you are minutiae on the grand scheme of things? Like the Earth is just a speck of dust in the universe's elaborate lasagna dish, and anything having to do with you or the rest of its inhabitants doesn't ultimately affect the rich, bold flavor...

    I was having a conversation with an INTJ friend of mine the other day, and he seemed to exhibit this kind of philosophy. It seems rather depressing to me, and it's not really something that I can analyze too much on my own, as I use microNi, if that. I can, however, begin to fathom it once it's explained to me. Anyway, I'm curious to see if you Ni users empathize with the above in any way.

    I don't just mean Ni-dom/aux people either, k?

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    I've pretty much always realized how insignificant everything is and I always have that thought somewhere in my mind. It's probably why I'm always so skeptical of people who have really strong opinions or values.

    It doesn't bother me though, Te and Se don't search for meaning or truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    I've pretty much always realized how insignificant everything is and I always have that thought somewhere in my mind.
    Yeah, we're all insignificant and there really is no practical meaning to the lives we pretend to live. And this, I feel, is why the Epicurians were/are Epicurians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    I've pretty much always realized how insignificant everything is and I always have that thought somewhere in my mind. It's probably why I'm always so skeptical of people who have really strong opinions or values.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    I've pretty much always realized how insignificant everything is and I always have that thought somewhere in my mind. It's probably why I'm always so skeptical of people who have really strong opinions or values.
    The insignificance thing comes in random bouts for me, and it almost always freaks me out when I think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Ya know, the kind where you think to yourself "Why am I here? I can't really come up with a rationale for the continuation of my existence, so why does my life continue?" Do you feel like you are minutiae on the grand scheme of things? Like the Earth is just a speck of dust in the universe's elaborate lasagna dish, and anything having to do with you or the rest of its inhabitants doesn't ultimately affect the rich, bold flavor...

    I was having a conversation with an INTJ friend of mine the other day, and he seemed to exhibit this kind of philosophy. It seems rather depressing to me, and it's not really something that I can analyze too much on my own, as I use microNi, if that. I can, however, begin to fathom it once it's explained to me. Anyway, I'm curious to see if you Ni users empathize with the above in any way.

    I don't just mean Ni-dom/aux people either, k?
    I'm not sure that this is an Ni thing - I went through a phase where I was not only completely atheist, but also completely existentialist and I was overwhelmed with the meaninglessness of everything (outside of the meaning we ourselves assign to it, and agree upon). While initially freeing, it eventually made me feel very depressed. That was certainly a crisis. I was living and thinking so far outside of the box that I was afraid that I would wake up one day and be a giant Kafka-esque cockroach.

    I still think that lots of things are arbitrarily meaningful or meaningless, and in fact last year I chose to write my final paper for my World Lit class on Albert Camus' The Stranger.

    I think having spiritual beliefs protects me from having an existentialist crisis now. But I think enough to sometimes wonder if my spiritual beliefs are a protective measure to keep myself from becoming completely nihilistic. Usually, though, I'm fairly certain that something is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justxher View Post
    I've pretty much always realized how insignificant everything is and I always have that thought somewhere in my mind.
    Yeah, pretty much.

    I had a massive existential crisis when I was 24-26, and it took me a long while to work myself out of it. Since then I have little bubbles on occasion, and I know I'll have future bubbles, but I *think* what I concluded after those couple of years keeps me from obsessing, caring, and really getting upset over the fact as much anymore. It just is. I'm actually kind of at peace with it. Moving on....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post

    and it almost always freaks me out when I think about it.
    Why does it freak you out? I find that the opposite freaks me out. I'm very comfortable with the lack of significance of everything.

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    ^ I agree once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outsider View Post
    ^ I agree once again.


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