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    Default How can we create a personality we desire?

    How can we create a personality we desire?

    Personal heroism by means of individualism is a task requiring courage and self-confidence. Courage and self-confidence are characteristics of few sapiens, young or old. It is a path less traveled because it imposes terrifying burdens; these burdens display themselves by isolation from the common herd. “This move exposes the person to the sense of being completely crushed and annihilated because he sticks out so much, has to carry so much in himself.”

    Personal heroism demands that one exposes her self, i.e. s/he sticks out dramatically from the herd. Those creative types who expose themselves so must create their own justification. Herein we find something that may seem illogical “the more you develop as a distinctive free and critical human being, the more guilt you have. Your very work accuses you; it makes you feel inferior. What right do you have to play God?” By what authority do you presume to introduce new meaning into the world?

    Otto Rank was a colleague of Freud and, like Jung, carried theories far beyond those which Freud created. “Freud’s reality psychology emphasized essentially the influence of outer factor, of the outer milieu, upon the development of the individual and the formation of character,…I [was] opposed to this biological principle, the spiritual principle which alone is meaningful in the development of the essentially human.”

    For Freud the id is the nucleus of being and it, the id, is subject to the natural laws. In such a frame the personality consists of layers of identification that “form the basis of the parental super-ego.” This might be properly considered to be the spiritual structure of the average individual, i.e. the average personality results from the natural influences developed against the naturally evolved super-ego.

    Such a theory accounts for the average but does not account for the two creative extremes: the creative type and the so-called “neurotic” type. I would label the average personality to be a reactive individual; an individual who goes with the flow.

    There are two personality types that make up the proactive personality: one creative type squeezes him or her self into a tight ball in reaction to the inner and outer milieu, i.e. the so-called “neurotic” and the second creative type who creates a personality wherein the ego “is strong just in the degree to which it [i]is[i] the representative of this primal force and the strength of this force represented in the individual we call will.”

    This second creative type, which Rank identifies as the creative type while he identifies the other creative type as the “neurotic”, creates “voluntarily from the impulsive elements and moreover to develop his standards beyond the identifications of the super-ego morality to an ideal formation which consciously guides and rules this creative will in terms of the personality.”

    “The essential point in this process is the fact that he evolves his ego ideal from himself, not merely on the ground of the given but also of self-chosen factors which he strives after consciously.”


    Quotes from Will Therapy and Truth and Reality by Otto Rank

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    Quote Originally Posted by coberst View Post
    Such a theory accounts for the average but does not account for the two creative extremes: the creative type and the so-called “neurotic” type. I would label the average personality to be a reactive individual; an individual who goes with the flow.
    And you can measure yourself against MBTI.

    For on this site, MBTI is the flow.

    So do you go with the flow and so are a reactive individual?

    Do you, as the Bible asks, "Find it hard to kick against the pricks?", and find it easier to go with the flow?

    Or are you a creative or neurotic type?

    How you react to the flow of MBTI will tell you.

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    Wear a mask.

    With a mask, you can be anyone you want to be.

    It's a little coincidental that most superheroes wear masks, but their masks hide their insecurities and their flaws.

    So wear a mask.

    Wear a mask and be happy today.
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    Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
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    Quote Originally Posted by coberst View Post
    How can we create a personality we desire?

    Personal heroism by means of individualism is a task requiring courage and self-confidence. Courage and self-confidence are characteristics of few sapiens, young or old. It is a path less traveled because it imposes terrifying burdens; these burdens display themselves by isolation from the common herd. “This move exposes the person to the sense of being completely crushed and annihilated because he sticks out so much, has to carry so much in himself.”
    Before courage and self-confidence there is pain caused by the end of the path you were on. The path can end in many ways, but the main thing is that you see it as a dead end for the person you are. The person you are is powerless to make the right choices. You need to change. Then you fall into a depression and try to figure out a way you could change. If you are lucky you don't believe in faking your way out of it. From somewhere you find the core of the problem and focus on it. You face the demon, you heal the wound, you are transformed. Then you will get to the courage and self-confidence. But that is only natural, as you just did the hardest thing you've ever done. You are a hero.


    Quote Originally Posted by coberst View Post
    Personal heroism demands that one exposes her self, i.e. s/he sticks out dramatically from the herd. Those creative types who expose themselves so must create their own justification. Herein we find something that may seem illogical “the more you develop as a distinctive free and critical human being, the more guilt you have. Your very work accuses you; it makes you feel inferior. What right do you have to play God?” By what authority do you presume to introduce new meaning into the world?
    If you did the journey and cured the wound, this isn't the situation. You don't have guilt, because you aren't doing anything wrong and you know it. You don't even necessarily stick out that much. Certainly your sticking out doesn't need to be negative. The hero doesn't have to be ashamed for what he is (though I like Blank's idea about masks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank View Post
    With a mask, you can be anyone you want to be.
    If you wear a mask, you are not somebody, you are nobody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank View Post
    Wear a mask.

    With a mask, you can be anyone you want to be.

    It's a little coincidental that most superheroes wear masks, but their masks hide their insecurities and their flaws.

    So wear a mask.

    Wear a mask and be happy today.
    lol, actually superheroes wear mask to hide their identity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soujiro View Post
    lol, actually superheroes wear mask to hide their identity
    That is still the best way to hide insecurities and flaws...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    If you wear a mask, you are not somebody, you are nobody.
    Sometimes, a lie can become the truth.

    Puss n' Boots, my friend. Puss n' Boots.
    Ti = 19 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Te = 16[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Ne = 16[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Fi = 15 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Si = 12 [][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Ni = 12 [][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Se = 11[][][][][][][][][][][]
    Fe = 0

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    Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
    Man got to sit and wonder why, why, why;
    Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
    Man got to tell himself he understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    That is still the best way to hide insecurities and flaws...
    If you are talking about "hide insecurities and flaws" in the context of this thread, then yes a mask can be used to hide that. Whether it is the best way or not is debatable.
    But I was talking in terms of superheroes in cartoons. They wear mask not to hide insecurities or flaws, but so people don't know that they are a superhero. So villains don't use their loved ones for ransom, so they don't have a 10 mile line of fans waiting at their door each day, etc.

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    Superheroes are often insecure because they know they could not protect the ones they loved if everyone knew who they were. As a superhero, you are inhuman, you have no flaws. Once you take that away, you just have another human desperately scrambling to keep his/her life in order.
    Ti = 19 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Te = 16[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Ne = 16[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Fi = 15 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Si = 12 [][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Ni = 12 [][][][][][][][][][][][]
    Se = 11[][][][][][][][][][][]
    Fe = 0

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    Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
    Man got to sit and wonder why, why, why;
    Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
    Man got to tell himself he understand

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