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    Quote Originally Posted by Circle View Post
    I think this is backwards. Dark is the abscence of light, it is not itself substantial. It is a romanticization of evil to say good and evil are balancing forces, like yin and yang. There is what is good, what is true, what is right, or the abscence of it.
    But if the sky is dark and we have light on earth how do the rays travel from the sun to the earth? Or is it that darkness is a mere observation caused by the lack of an object for the light to bounce off of. So you can have darkness that is substantial, just not observational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    BOr is it that darkness is a mere observation caused by the lack of an object for the light to bounce off of.
    Darkness is something we are able to observe only when contrasted by light, because it is the lack of light. Darkness is nothing.

    For every right answer, there is a nearly infinite amount of wrong answers. For every thing that exists, there is a nearly infinite amount that does not.

    It is foolish to ponder nothing instead of something. Likewise, to ponder what is dark, evil, wrong, or false leads is also foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circle View Post
    Darkness is something we are able to observe only when contrasted by light, because it is the lack of light. Darkness is nothing.

    For every right answer, there is a nearly infinite amount of wrong answers. For every thing that is, there is a nearly infinite amount that is not.

    It is foolish to ponder nothing instead of something. Likewise, to ponder what is dark, evil, wrong, or false leads only to foolishness.
    We are only able to understand darkness when it is contrasted by light. For if we didnt have light we would not know any different. But that does not mean we can only observe darkness because we have light.

    To ponder what is dark, evil, wrong, or false leads you to the light, good, right, true from a different perspective. This is yin and yang.

    edit: im having fun, INTP vs ISTP , but I gotta go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circle View Post
    I think this is backwards. Dark is the abscence of light, it is not itself substantial. It is a romanticization of evil to say good and evil are balancing forces, like yin and yang. There is what is good, what is true, what is right, or the abscence of it.
    i was saying what is light without dark...how do you recognize it w/o the contrast?

    eta: oh...so poki just said that kinda never mind.
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    No offense, but some of these replies are bullshit.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    No offense, but some of these replies are bullshit.
    Care to explain why you think so?

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    No.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    No offense, but some of these replies are bullshit.

    Some of the replies are indeed, bullshit.

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    It's obvious that the OP needs to clarify what evil is before a discussion on where it comes from can commence.

    Otherwise, I agree with the Frenchie.
    “Some people will tell you that slow is good – but I’m here to tell you that fast is better. I’ve always believed this, in spite of the trouble it’s caused me. Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba…”


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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    We are only able to understand darkness when it is contrasted by light. For if we didnt have light we would not know any different. But that does not mean we can only observe darkness because we have light.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i was saying what is light without dark...how do you recognize it w/o the contrast?
    Good questions. Let's start with the science and move into the parallels after...

    "white is the combination of all the colors of the visible light spectrum. If all the wavelengths of the visible light spectrum give the appearance of white, then none of the wavelengths would lead to the appearance of black. Once more, black is not actually a color. Technically speaking, black is merely the absence of the wavelengths of the visible light spectrum. "
    -The Electromagnetic and Visible Spectra

    When you look up into the sky at night, most of what you see is space. When people hear the word space they often think about being in an environment like my astronaut avatar. If you think about it, what is space? It is literally just that, space in it's purest form. If someone tried to give me a free couch, I'd have to tell them I couldn't take it because I don't have enough floor space--I don't have enough nothing to add something. Technically, this isn't pure space, because it is occupied by atmospheric gases, which are also something. This is why space is considered a vacuum (compared to our pressurized atmosphere) because molecules naturally disperse from an area of high density to little or no density.

    Oh well, it was probably covered with mystery stains and smelled like stale Doritos. Anyways, if space is absolute nothingness, then the vast black night sky is mostly nothing. It looks like it could be something, because we can replicate the color black on an object or paper and still touch and feel it. Considering all of this, does it make sense to refer to darkness as something rather than nothing? Does it make sense to say you are observing darkness rather than an absence of light? Similarly, we must define other things in relation to what is rather than what it is not. 1+1=2. It would take me an eternity to tell you every number 1+1 does not equal. Once we recognize that there is only a single right answer to any question then we can begin to classify everything else in relation to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    To ponder what is dark, evil, wrong, or false leads you to the light, good, right, true from a different perspective. This is yin and yang.
    "But Circle, haven't you heard there is more than one way to skin a cat?" Yes, there is more than one way of accomplishing something, but that is like saying there is more than one answers that are "pretty close" to a complex math problem. You can find the right answer through trying other answers that are wrong, but to seek wrong answers on purpose will in no way help you reach the right one any faster.

    Dark and light do not "balance" each other out. There is what is [right, true, good] and what is not. What is cannot equal what is not, 1=/=0. Balance is only obtained through equal amounts of what exists. Also, I think the belief that we are in a state of universal balance or will ever reach one is the greatest assumption of all.

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