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    I just thought of something. How come if you kill a pregnant woman with a growing fetus inside of her, the killer gets prosecuted for TWO murders, but if a woman aborts a fetus, it's suddenly not murder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    I just thought of something. How come if you kill a pregnant woman with a growing fetus inside of her, the killer gets prosecuted for TWO murders, but if a woman aborts a fetus, it's suddenly not murder?
    Probably because she intended to have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alwar View Post
    Probably because she intended to have it.
    That's a really dumb reason. One person intends for it to live, so then its a murder. But if that person doesn't intend for it to live, then it's not a murder? I shouldn't have to even describe how illogical that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    That's a really dumb reason.
    Yeah. Do all states have these laws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    I just thought of something. How come if you kill a pregnant woman with a growing fetus inside of her, the killer gets prosecuted for TWO murders, but if a woman aborts a fetus, it's suddenly not murder?
    Modern societies tend to give women control over their own bodies, which would include the things inside their bodies. If a fetus dies because of what a women chooses to do to herself, it's not the same as someone else deciding to kill the fetus.

    You shouldn't be dumbfounded over this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    If a fetus dies because of what a women chooses to do to herself, it's the same as someone else deciding to kill the fetus.
    Then how can abortion laws and and murder laws in regards to killing the fetus be any different by your own logic? If it's "the same" then they should either both be prosecuted for murdering the fetus, or neither of them prosecuted for killing it. You could say that she could kill herself and that wouldn't be illegal, but the fetus isn't herself, and that is represented by the fact that the killer gets prosecuted for murdering TWO people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    Then how can abortion laws and and murder laws in regards to killing the fetus be any different by your own logic? If it's "the same" then they should either both be prosecuted for murdering the fetus, or neither of them prosecuted for killing it.
    It's not the same, that was a typo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    It's not the same, that was a typo.
    Those laws are still horribly inconsistent is the point. In one case you're considering it two people, then in the abortion you're not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    Those laws are still horribly inconsistent is the point.
    Federal and state law put in a lot of nuances for what counts and doesn't count as murder. The people who want simple black and white legal definitions for things don't have the burden of needing to run anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Federal and state law put in a lot of nuances for what counts and doesn't count as murder. The people who want simple black and white legal definitions for things don't have the burden of needing to run anything.
    Would YOU consider it double homicide if someone killed a pregnant woman?

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