Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
You don't seem to be understanding me. I am familiar with both Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson's presidencies. They are crucially at odds. The fit into the definition of progressivism broadly, and they are usually distant from each other within in the boundaries of that definiton. And what I mean by vague is that progressivism, as it is defined each time I look it up, appears to describe 20th century politicy. Are you perhaps against the development of politics in the 20th century in their entirety?
they both fit into a period where people thought that the government could mechanically implement "science" to save the world by mechanically engineering aspects of society.

their programs definitely fit into that. As an example: look at how eugenics was so popular during the progressive era....