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    I had an aura picture take once. Correction, Kirlian photo. I looked like Jesus on it, all yellow, except for the red "stress" flames Didn't interest me much. There is some science involved and then there is a lot of interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    I had an aura picture take once. Correction, Kirlian photo. I looked like Jesus on it, all yellow, except for the red "stress" flames Didn't interest me much. There is some science involved and then there is a lot of interpretation.
    Was the red an overtone on the shell or outer area of the aura?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJ123 View Post
    ...look at what the FDA/government did to Wilhelm Reich, they threw him in jail and left him for dead.
    I am rather fond of Wilhelm Reich. However I would say today that he wrote one good book called, "Character Analysis", but then he started to slip into paranoia and wrote some books which are embarrassing.

    Orgone Energy does seem to be in the tradition of Elan Vital.

    And Elan Vital was an attempt to explain life. However today we know much more biology and Elan Vital has fallen into disuse.

    And Orgone Energy was a similar attempt to explain biological life, but like Elan Vital it finds no place today in biology.

    However Wilhelm Reich was important politically as he opposed fascism in Europe, unlike his contemporary Carl Jung.

    And Wilhelm Reich became popular in the Sixties as he provided a rationale for the sexual revolution.

    In my opinion, the mistake Reich made with Orgone Energy was to take a metaphor literally.

    And as far as I know no one has succeeded in measuring Orgone Energy or Elan Vital but they remain powerful metaphors today.

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    Kirlian photography looks like it can be explained by basic physics. The variation in the images is caused by the amount of moisture on an object or person, which changes the electric charge pattern. In a vacuum, where moisture can't be ionized, it doesn't work.

    Image modulation in corona discharge photography

    Photographic images obtained by the Kirlian technique are principally a record of corona activity during an exposure interval. Most of the variations in the images of the corona of a living subject who is in contact with the photographic film can be accounted for by the presence of moisture on or within the subject's surface. During exposure, moisture is transferred from the subject to the emulsion surface of the photographic film and causes an alteration of the electric charge pattern on the film, hence the electric field at the surface of the subject. As a result, large variations in the density of corona images, corona streamer trajectories, and image coloration can be brought about. The radial extent of corona images--that is, the range of corona streamers--is an inverse function of the resistance in the circuit formed by the high-voltage supply, the subject, and the film-electrode configuration. This is because the voltage at which corona is initiated is dependent on the rate of rise of the voltage impressed between the subject and the electrode, and the rate of rise is governed by the applied voltage waveform and the voltage drop across the resistance. The range of streamers is proportional to the corona onset voltage. However, we have not seen any influence of large changes in skin resistance on streamer range. Presumably, this is due to the shunting effect of skin capacitance. In general, the photographic response to moisture suggests that corona discharge photography may be useful in the detection and quantification of moisture in animate and inanimate specimens through the orderly modulation of the image due to various levels of moisture.
    Image modulation in corona discharge photography -- Pehek et al. 194 (4262): 263 -- Science

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJ123 View Post
    Was the red an overtone on the shell or outer area of the aura?
    Outer area. Why do you ask ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Outer area. Why do you ask ?
    Well, the explanation for that is basically what you said, it's a "stress" indicator, but not exactly your daily stress type of thing, they say it's usually an aura developed from a traumatic experience usually during childhood involving your overall well being and security (emotional/physical). It's said that it represents intense anger, continuous struggle, or self-sabotage. But there are ways to remove this aura as well. Generally just mental health stuff and becoming more open, trusting, and loving. Sorry I don't mean to be offensive, hell I might even have it, I've never gotten an aura reading though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Kirlian photography looks like it can be explained by basic physics. The variation in the images is caused by the amount of moisture on an object or person, which changes the electric charge pattern. In a vacuum, where moisture can't be ionized, it doesn't work.



    Image modulation in corona discharge photography -- Pehek et al. 194 (4262): 263 -- Science
    8:40-9:21 of kirlian explanation video shows that it can be enclosed in a barrier or plastic cover where it can't be caused by escaping moisture, the phantom effect. However they do address the fact that escaping moisture can and does have an effect. But it's not always the case like you are claiming.

    You are not the first person to bring this up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJ123 View Post
    It's said that it represents intense anger, continuous struggle, or self-sabotage. But there are ways to remove this aura as well. Generally just mental health stuff and becoming more open, trusting, and loving.
    Sounds about right
    Anyway, the picture was taken a few years ago. I've changed a lot for the better.
    Where do you get that info btw ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Sounds about right
    Anyway, the picture was taken a few years ago. I've changed a lot for the better.
    Where do you get that info btw ?
    I read about it a while back in aura books. It correlates with kirlian emotional response photos too. So I just figured that it might be accurate. Google aura red overlay or something like that, I think that's what it's called.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJ123 View Post
    this is real and legitimate telekinesis/psychokinesis for anyone interested.
    He refers to it as the manipulation of the quantum reality field, and that's a perfectly reasonable explanation in itself if you have been following quantum theory. It's sad that most people have been fooled so many times that they no longer can distinguish what is real or not for themselves anymore, now they have to look for authorities like james randi to dictate to them what is real or not.


    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycNhGkTP_MQ"][YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycNhGkTP_MQ"][/YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE]
    There's really no reason I should believe in a psychokinetic energy field because of this. It's a home movie. A fan's blowing. I don't actually see the cameraman speaking, therefore I cannot tell if he is just voicing over a video clip. This isn't taking place in a controlled environment.

    And referring to the German video - for all I know, that could be a clip from a movie. It is not shot in a documentary fashion, and I can't even understand what they are saying.

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