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    I cannot stop questioning philosophical issues. I have delved deeply into both sides of many of the main debates and of course come out with no new answers. Everything is subject to doubt. Can you ever really know anything? If not...is it possible to give life any meaning? How can you live life to the fullest if you cannot stop questioning? How can you not question things/Does anyone else feel this way?

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    Why can't a person live life fully while questioning things?
    Why does life require meaning to live fully?
    What does living fully even mean?

    Why are these questions more special than your normal "How'd you do?" questions?

    Sorry for no answers. ^^;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx
    I cannot stop questioning philosophical issues. I have delved deeply into both sides of many of the main debates and of course come out with no new answers. Everything is subject to doubt.
    I think my psychology professor from last fall depicted this problem quite elegantly. (Granted, I think he said he heard this idea from someone else.)

    Although we usually consider Newton's laws of motion to be within the realm of physics, Newton would not have called himself a physicist, since physics had not yet differentiated itself as an independent field of study. Newton would have called himself a natural philosopher. Psychology, likewise, was categorized as philosophy until the late 1800s. As we discover new truths and ways of discerning truths, we give those methods their own branches of study. Philosophy, then, is left with the stuff we don't know and/or don't know how to know (which could be argued to be everything).

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx
    Can you ever really know anything?
    I'm going to have to get semantic here. According to dictionary.com, to "know" is to "to perceive or understand as fact or truth; to apprehend clearly and with certainty," at least by the first definition. It should be evident that one can perceive or understand some concept as fact or truth without that concept necessarily being true in the objective reality (if there even is such a thing). If a person convinced himself 100% that 2+2=5, then he would "know" that it was true, but it wouldn't actually be true. (I know that point can be argued, but just play along.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx
    If not...is it possible to give life any meaning?
    You can always impose your own meaning upon life and run with it. Who's to say your own meaning is any less valid (not in the strictly logical sense) than any other meaning?

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    Does anyone else feel this way?
    I do. Very much so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kai
    Why can't a person live life fully while questioning things?
    It's hard to make something of life if you question every single thing you do, trying to find some profound meaning in eating breakfast before eating in the morning.

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    I guess this is why we need those S types to keep our heads on the ground.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    I guess this is why we need those S types to keep our heads on the ground.

    Then we would be like ostriches. Birds incapable of flight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timeless View Post
    I guess this is why we need those S types to keep our heads on the ground.

    I feel like this often though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laughingebony View Post
    I think my psychology professor from last fall depicted this problem quite elegantly. (Granted, I think he said he heard this idea from someone else.)

    Although we usually consider Newton's laws of motion to be within the realm of physics, Newton would not have called himself a physicist, since physics had not yet differentiated itself as an independent field of study. Newton would have called himself a natural philosopher. Psychology, likewise, was categorized as philosophy until the late 1800s. As we discover new truths and ways of discerning truths, we give those methods their own branches of study. Philosophy, then, is left with the stuff we don't know and/or don't know how to know (which could be argued to be everything).
    Well, that sums it up nicely.

    I'm going to have to get semantic here. According to dictionary.com, to "know" is to "to perceive or understand as fact or truth; to apprehend clearly and with certainty," at least by the first definition. It should be evident that one can perceive or understand some concept as fact or truth without that concept necessarily being true in the objective reality (if there even is such a thing). If a person convinced himself 100% that 2+2=5, then he would "know" that it was true, but it wouldn't actually be true. (I know that point can be argued, but just play along.)
    Ok, so can you ever know if something is true or false?...what about objective truth? (uughh, I feel like these discussions have been rehashed literal millions of times, but I am always interested to here what other people have concluded.)


    It's hard to make something of life if you question every single thing you do, trying to find some profound meaning in eating breakfast before eating in the morning.
    Good point. Reminds me of the Buddhist teachings of mindfulness.

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    I guess this is why we need those S types to keep our heads on the ground.

    Hahaha yes, though I would only say that to other Ns (errr... in jest of course ). Unfortunately, I have had many uncomfortable arguments with Ss about Nness and some of them feel inferior... a touchy subject. Everyone plays a part in the game...I try to assure them they are more than just a cog in the whole thing.

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    I rather like what Vonnegut had to say on the subject--See my sig.
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    "Truth" is just a claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx View Post
    I cannot stop questioning philosophical issues. I have delved deeply into both sides of many of the main debates and of course come out with no new answers. Everything is subject to doubt. Can you ever really know anything? If not...is it possible to give life any meaning? How can you live life to the fullest if you cannot stop questioning? How can you not question things/Does anyone else feel this way?
    My username is Athenian. What do people usually associate ancient Athens with? In short, yes, someone else feels this way. Many have, and many do, in fact.

    I don't believe it's possible to know the world, but I do believe it's possible to know ourselves to some degree. We can know what is right for us, and we can constantly improve our ability to make valid assumptions.

    I actually believe that it's the lack of knowledge that gives life meaning. I think If we actually KNEW something, we would no longer be curious about it, and it would become meaningless. It's the very fact that it's an argument, that it's not known for certain, that gives it meaning.

    I think that questioning is what life is all about, thus in the very process of questioning and exploring/modifying our sense of knowledge, we ARE living life to the fullest. In other words, the meaning is in the questions, not the answers.

    That's my take, anyway.

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