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    Senior Member Saslou's Avatar
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    Default Life .. Random or Determined?

    If posted in the wrong place, then apologies)

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    Who knows?

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    I expect it to be the former. But if I'm wrong, that will be perfect because I'm a Jew.

    And moved to Philo.
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    I think that we're all following equations, and there's no such thing as true randomness.

    If there is a God, then I believe that we have free will.
    The probability that I was procrastinating when I was typing this post:

    P(have big assignment due) = 0.6
    P(posting on TypoC) = 0.2
    P(having big assignment due | posting on TypoC) = 0.7

    P(posting on TypoC | having big assignment due) = .......


    Eh, I'll finish it later.

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    Your statements are contradictory.

    Not that I really care. But I thought I should point it out.
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    Well, the first one only applies if there is no God
    The probability that I was procrastinating when I was typing this post:

    P(have big assignment due) = 0.6
    P(posting on TypoC) = 0.2
    P(having big assignment due | posting on TypoC) = 0.7

    P(posting on TypoC | having big assignment due) = .......


    Eh, I'll finish it later.

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    Doesn't Read Your Posts Haight's Avatar
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    Who created the equations?
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    To be honest that's probably the best argument for the existence of a God that I've seen. I don't really have an answer to it. I don't think anyone can answer that though, although it's definitely interesting to think about. Something had to start from nothing.

    It's sort of linked to another good argument I've heard that tries to prove God's existence. Basically it states that since everything in the world is caused by something else, something had to come first that was able to break that law. The only being or thing that could have possibly done this would be a God.

    Bit of a derail there.

    EDIT: An interesting concept would be if we all really did run off equations, but they were actually created by a God (as you suggested). Bit of a twist...in that case I would still say that we do not have free will.
    The probability that I was procrastinating when I was typing this post:

    P(have big assignment due) = 0.6
    P(posting on TypoC) = 0.2
    P(having big assignment due | posting on TypoC) = 0.7

    P(posting on TypoC | having big assignment due) = .......


    Eh, I'll finish it later.

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    I have a hard time grasping the concept of random therefore I say everything has been determined since the origin of this universe. All is but a game of dominoes.

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    BOTH

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