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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    I'm not demanding you to believe. I'm asking you to learn how to say: I don't know.
    Why would I do that, when there is a whole body of evidence which it would be violating if it was true.
    You see, you seem worship a god called Science. The thing about Science is..it's the only god we know to be fallable as it was in fact created by man
    I don't think I worship science I am more inclined to accept a body of evidence which has been peer-reviewed then to accept anecdotal claims.

    This we do know for sure. Science may one day explain all these phenomena, and I look forward to that day. But I will not judge these things to be invalid just because Science tells me that he has no way of proving these phenomena and therefore validating them.
    This is like the fallacy of the "God of the gaps" argument.

    That would be like refusing to watch TV as I have no clue exaclty how that thing works despite hearing rumors about how if you push the power button, something magical will happen.
    You've lost me.

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    Clearly, I have. Unfortunate. I'll stop derailing now, but I'd love to see this body of evidence against spiritual practices someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Clearly, I have. Unfortunate. I'll stop derailing now, but I'd love to see this body of evidence against spiritual practices someday.
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    King's got his own religion, don't let him fool you. He's a materialist.

    Materialists hold as a matter of faith that only what is physically tangible, or that which may be logically extrapolated from the physically tanglible, is real. It facilitates a certain authoritarian approach to rhetoric, but is at its heart dogmatic, like all fundamentalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    King's got his own religion, don't let him fool you. He's a materialist.

    Materialists hold as a matter of faith that only what is physically tangible, or that which may be logically extrapolated from the physically tanglible, is real. It facilitates a certain authoritarian approach to rhetoric, but is at its heart dogmatic, like all fundamentalism.
    I was aware of that, but thanks for explaining it so clearly. Now how do you get them to stop feeling threatened ( or so it would appear) by people that don't share their religion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    King's got his own religion, don't let him fool you. He's a materialist.

    Materialists hold as a matter of faith that only what is physically tangible, or that which may be logically extrapolated from the physically tanglible, is real. It facilitates a certain authoritarian approach to rhetoric, but is at its heart dogmatic, like all fundamentalism.
    I am actually not a materialist, I am a solipsist, but that is a mute point.

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    ^ See the movie "Affinity." Creepy Seance story! (Did I spell that right?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    I'm not demanding you to believe. I'm asking you to learn how to say: I don't know. I don't have any way of knowing (yet). You see, you seem to worship a god called Science. The thing about Science is..it's the only god we know to be fallable as it was in fact created by man. This we do know for sure. Science may one day explain all these phenomena, and I look forward to that day. But I will not judge these things to be invalid just because Science tells me that he has no way of proving these phenomena and therefore validating them. That would be like refusing to watch TV as I have no clue exaclty how that thing works despite hearing rumors about how if you push the power button, something magical will happen.
    Quantum mechanics was "true" before we "discovered" in in ~ the 1920's. Newtonian Mechanics was true before Newton and Galileo "discovered" it. Relativity was true before Einstein "formulated" it in the 1900's and before its math was "discovered" in the 1890's [note: some of its math is still not worked out to this day]. Viruses and bacteria were "true" before we saw them with microscopes.

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