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    Quote Originally Posted by professor goodstain View Post
    You'd like to read some books? Try reading the Quran itself. See how you interpret it. We have all these intuitives in this thread writing it's a violent book. Did they read it? No. They MUST be going off what fox news sais. For starters...just read it. It's a book of peace and justice for humanity. Surely it can be interpreted to a child by a teacher to justify violence, but only when this teacher can present justification to the child that it's words are being compromised. As of late, there has been plenty of proof which can easily be used to craft its writen words to be interpreted to motivate giving ones life to defend its integrity. Porn, abortion, violence motivated by greed.....

    The reason that the silent majority is silent is because they also see an extreme in what is coming out of the west.
    The one thing I've gotten out of the Qur'an that I've always respected is the demand for loving each other that the book instills in its followers. Christianity has a habit of letting the universal love of God through Jesus be sufficient, while the Qur'an lets it be known that the will of God is that all Muslims love one another as brothers and sisters. That you can see this even in photographs of the Hajj, people greeting complete strangers like long-lost relatives, will be something I always respect about Islam, even if I'll never see it myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    The one thing I've gotten out of the Qur'an that I've always respected is the demand for loving each other that the book instills in its followers. Christianity has a habit of letting the universal love of God through Jesus be sufficient, while the Qur'an lets it be known that the will of God is that all Muslims love one another as brothers and sisters. That you can see this even in photographs of the Hajj, people greeting complete strangers like long-lost relatives, will be something I always respect about Islam, even if I'll never see it myself.
    This is disingenuous.

    It is disingenuous because it leaves out the fact that the Koran divides us into muslims, dhimmi and infidels.

    And while the Koran does enjoin muslims to support one another, it also says dhimmi are to be dominated or killed, and also that infidels are to be converted or killed.

    And it is disingenuous because you omit to mention that almost all of us here are dhimmi, that is, Jews or Christians, or we are infidels, that is, everyone else.

    Whereas the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says we are all equal under the law, the Koran says only muslims are equal under the law, and that dhimmi and infidels are not equal under the law.

    And the Koran teaches that if dhimmi and infidels object to this, they are to be killed.

    And this is what Islamists do in the real world - they kill and continue kill dhimmi and infidels - and all this by the religion of peace.

    The truth is that Islam will be peaceful only when we are all muslim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    This is disingenuous.

    It is disingenuous because it leaves out the fact that the Koran divides us into muslims, dhimmi and infidels.

    And while the Koran does enjoin muslims to support one another, it also says dhimmi are to be dominated or killed, and also that infidels are to be converted or killed.

    And it is disingenuous because you omit to mention that almost all of us here are dhimmi, that is, Jews or Christians, or we are infidels, that is, everyone else.

    Whereas the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says we are all equal under the law, the Koran says only muslims are equal under the law, and that dhimmi and infidels are not equal under the law.

    And the Koran teaches that if dhimmi and infidels object to this, they are to be killed.

    And this is what Islamists do in the real world - they kill and continue kill dhimmi and infidels - and all this by the religion of peace.

    The truth is that Islam will be peaceful only when we are all muslim.
    No, it's not, because the West is powerful and the Muslim nations' only bargaining chip is that they have lots of petroleum. That's it.

    By your standards, Christianity will only be peaceful when all are converted - the Great Commissioning. That being said, Christians have done a hell of a job killing other Christians, even when an entire region is converted.

    Religion is just an excuse. Wars are fought over the same things - resource pressure or population pressure. The Muslim nations have the latter in spades.

    Just admit you're bigoted towards Muslims. You have a reason to be, but that doesn't make it any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Just admit you're bigoted towards Muslims.
    Good heavens, I am so bigoted towards muslims I helped found and fund the The Muslim Students' Association of the Australian National University.
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    Please. The Bible is just as full of instructions to kill and maim as the Quran. Christians have been murdering people en-mass for years. I don't see anything but bigotry and ignorance in your posts.

    The West is as much to blame for the violence as anyone else. They have done their share of murdering and destroying. They respect other faiths and cultures about as much as a dog respects the tree it pisses on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Good heavens, I am so bigoted towards muslims I helped found and fund the The Muslim Students' Association of the Australian National University.
    But, if I recall correctly, you had a falling out with them...can it be those particular instance(s) shaped your bias, as a whole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny Army View Post
    Please. The Bible is just as full of instructions to kill and maim as the Quran. Christians have been murdering people en-mass for years. I don't see anything but bigotry and ignorance in your posts.

    The West is as much to blame for the violence as anyone else. They have done their share of murdering and destroying. They respect other faiths and cultures about as much as a dog respects the tree it pisses on.
    It wasn't Anglicans that murdered my fellow Australians at breakfast yesterday.

    Nor was it Baptists or even Catholics.

    It was Islamists who spread body parts over the breakfast table.

    And they have promised to keep on spreading our body parts in keeping with the teaching of the Koran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Good heavens, I am so bigoted towards muslims I helped found and fund the The Muslim Students' Association of the Australian National University.
    I don't see why this matters when you are spreading hatred neatly through your posts. I could just as easily say America will be benevolent only when they have taken over the world. How many innocent children died in Iraq? In Afghanistan? We can keep going; Vietnam, Korea. But I suppose they deserved to die because they were part of "the silent majority" and had already indicated their assent. Essentially, they deserved to die for being "infidels" by your weak standards.
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    Don't worry Tiny, Victor's just going through his usual Islamophobe phase. Give it a few days, and he'll start bashing Catholics in no time, or denoucing religion altogether as nothing more than a cover for child molestation fuhfuhfuh.

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