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    Default A Preacher is at My House

    He's staying here this week. I'm going to piece together a very solid argument for my stances. I'm sure he will want to speak with me about it because he probably wants to save my soul. He won't.

    So I want to ask you, what questions would you ask a preacher at your disposal? I will ask him. And I invite you to post brief arguments or to point out contradictions that I should bring up, so that he may explain them away.
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    Why would you let one of those in your house? Aren't you scared? Personally, I'd be afraid those guys would throw out my Tarot and Astrology stuff.

    Anyway...

    1. Why would God only wish to save the people of one nation and forsake all the others, despite having created them all?

    2. Why are all the rules of the Old Testament still given so much weight since the game supposedly changed quite a bit in the New Testament from rules to mercy?

    3. What makes Christianity more inherently valid than any other religion? Do you honestly think being in a culture that valued Christianity had nothing to do with your choice of religion? Then explain why most people, regardless of the religion in question, end up valuing whatever religion was valued by either their parents, their friends, or the area they grew up in, and why so few of them ever question that religion. How can you possibly hope to justify saying that you are right to value what your parents and peers valued, but that others are wrong for doing the same?

    Ah, sorry. I just have too many arguments against people of faith.

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    If you ask those questions, the answers will likely be something like:

    1. He doesn't.

    2. They aren't.

    3. a. Its truth
    b. of course not
    c. do I still have to explain given my answer to b.?
    d. because I think there's more to my epistemic foundation than only 'what my peers valued'.

    Doesn't seem very interesting.
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    I don't think I'd ask him anything.
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    Why bother?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Why bother?
    Probably boredom. He's going to have a preacher in his house, so he figures he might as well have some fun arguing with him over religion. People talk to preachers about religion all the time, so they're probably the best at defending it.

    I personally would be afraid to have a preacher in my house, and I'd probably be afraid to admit that I didn't share their religion if I did.

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    ^ My dad's a preacher, so I'm preeety used to the preacher types by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    I personally would be afraid to have a preacher in my house, and I'd probably be afraid to admit that I didn't share their religion if I did.
    You know, they're people like any other. it's not like they're going to eat your face.



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    Is he Christian?

    Why don't you ask this pastor to prove that God exists?

    Ask him the following series of questions, please.

    If it cannot be proven that God exists, then how can it be clear that God exists? If it is not clear that God exists, then how can God hold us responsible for believing in him, or his son? Isn't God supposed to be just? Would a just God condemn someone to everlasting misery for doing something that person couldn't know to be wrong?

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    What if he thinks your soul is okay and doesn't need any special saving?

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