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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Yeah, some people will do it as ritual, but in general the point is to reflect on a proper perspective of oneself compared to the divine and to the rest of humanity. It helps make some people grateful for what they have, less presumptuous, and willing to give to others in need because it's "god's food" and not theirs.
    Why before a meal though? Why can't you be thankful for your food at the end of the night, after you've gotten a full day's worth and a happy stomach? I'm not saying the motive isn't right, but that it only seems ritualistic to hold prayer before a meal. Ritual in spirituality boggles my mind (but I guess I wouldn't understand the ritual if I can't understand spirtuality to begin with).

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    Because it disrespects farmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    but I guess I do it so that people will think better of me.
    but people that matter (non-religious) will think much less of you if they saw you praying before a meal, you're kinda targeting the wrong crowd, don't you think ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beat View Post
    Why before a meal though? Why can't you be thankful for your food at the end of the night, after you've gotten a full day's worth and a happy stomach? I'm not saying the motive isn't right, but that it only seems ritualistic to hold prayer before a meal. Ritual in spirituality boggles my mind (but I guess I wouldn't understand the ritual if I can't understand spirtuality to begin with).
    Right, it doesn't make sense to me either. But I've always thought spirituality was merely the emptiest example of ritual (I mean, even dining etiquette has a social communication purpose)?

    Quote Originally Posted by wastrd View Post
    but people that matter (non-religious) will think much less of you if they saw you praying before a meal, you're kinda targeting the wrong crowd, don't you think ?
    Right. I'll stand on principle as well if other non-religious people in the room do. But if I'm completely surrounded by religious people (or people who are faking it), then it comes down to "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

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    right before the meal, you are hungry. so then when you put aside your desire for food for two minutes and take those two minutes to focus on god, you are not only thanking god for the food in front of you but also, to an extent, practicing self-control and in the greater scheme of things, acknowledging the fact that you don't need anything but god himself to live.

    but that does require focusing on god with full consciousness of every word you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisGuy View Post
    right before the meal, you are hungry. so then when you put aside your desire for food for two minutes and take those two minutes to focus on god, you are not only thanking god for the food in front of you but also, to an extent, practicing self-control and in the greater scheme of things, acknowledging the fact that you don't need anything but god himself to live.

    but that does require focusing on god with full consciousness of every word you say.
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    What's the big deal? People who pray before a meal do so in appreciation of their blessings in the form of food. That's why they do it at mealtime. Brainwashing? Really? I guess we're brainwashed when we kiss people good night, too. Why not kiss our loved ones at all times of the day to show we love them?

    I understand people hating religion, but geez, this seems like the most innocuous thing possible to call people out on.
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    Dunno if it's true, but it might be a remnant of our pagan days. Pagans tend to 'share' their food with the gods or their ancestors, inviting (often through prayer) them as family at our table. Being hospitable was a one of the big virtues in germanic people, and this could be seen as sharing your food with those you care about, I'd say. Clinking is the same thing. There's an ancient tradition to raise your glass to the host, and to the gods during mealtime to honor them.
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    I always thought praying before mealtime was originally a secular practice in parts where food was scarce or highly depended on the hunt or what you could find in caveman days. But instead of thanking God, they probably said something along the lines, "Let's appreciate Joe for what he has caught and shared with us." Then as farming practices started humans learned that one of the essential elements to a good harvest was sunlight. Seeing the importance of the life giving sun and lacking scientific explanations they attributed the out come of their growing seasons to God (the sun among other things). Thus creating a divide in secular and spiritual practices. Instead of thanking their farmers, as they has thanked their hunters and gatherers, they started to thank God (a personification of mother nature) who obviously seemed to impact the harvest much more than any primitive farmer. Then as Amargith said the pagan beliefs evolved into other religions.

    But I'm probably wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaula View Post
    "Let's appreciate Joe for what he has caught and shared with us."
    I wish people still did that. Imagine if all the religious love, money, passion etc. in the world was directed towards the earth and to each other.
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