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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank View Post
    Q: If god is all-knowing, then why the fuck would he have to incarnate himself as a man to know the human experience?
    its man who is in need to knowing the god experience.

    all those incarnations have been to answer man's questions...call it a lifeline from god if you want

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    So by extension is [insert anything that hasn't been proven] just as likely to exist as not?
    Not exactly. Not to get into a whole big thing, but let's assume that the Big Bang theory is correct, and that the universe has developed exactly as science has demonstrated, and that evolution is a fact (all things I believe to be true.)

    There still has to be a WHY. Why was there even a Big Bang? Why is there matter? Why is there anything? I think an omniscient being resembling most accounts of God is at least as good an explanation as "I have no idea, but I know it's not God because that's just silly", which is a pretty accurate distillation of the scientific opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I think an omniscient being resembling most accounts of God is at least as good an explanation as "I have no idea, but I know it's not God because that's just silly", which is a pretty accurate distillation of the scientific opinion.
    more or less...and also very ignorant i think

    if one day, we are gonna wake up and find out we are in a parody of the matrix...ill be very pissed for being woken up

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    Not exactly. Not to get into a whole big thing, but let's assume that the Big Bang theory is correct, and that the universe has developed exactly as science has demonstrated, and that evolution is a fact (all things I believe to be true.)

    There still has to be a WHY. Why was there even a Big Bang? Why is there matter? Why is there anything? I think an omniscient being resembling most accounts of God is at least as good an explanation as "I have no idea, but I know it's not God because that's just silly", which is a pretty accurate distillation of the scientific opinion.
    Only because we accept it as a culture. Ask any christian about the old roman gods - they would think it silly to worship them despite that we can't disprove their existance. Or if you care to poke a little fun, try flying spaghetti monster.

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    God is clearly a psychopathic peadeophile acting through priests to incite:

    -generations of religious genocide
    -enslavement of indiginious cultures
    - historical and current rape of young childeren.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    Not exactly. Not to get into a whole big thing, but let's assume that the Big Bang theory is correct, and that the universe has developed exactly as science has demonstrated, and that evolution is a fact (all things I believe to be true.)

    There still has to be a WHY. Why was there even a Big Bang? Why is there matter? Why is there anything? I think an omniscient being resembling most accounts of God is at least as good an explanation as "I have no idea, but I know it's not God because that's just silly", which is a pretty accurate distillation of the scientific opinion.
    If an intelligent being created the universe and the Big Bang, what created the intelligent being? Saying a supernatural deity started all of this goes one or two steps further than the Big Bang theory, but unlike the Big Bang theory, there is no evidence or reason to support it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    If an intelligent being created the universe and the Big Bang, what created the intelligent being? Saying a supernatural deity started all of this goes one or two steps further than the Big Bang theory, but unlike the Big Bang theory, there is no evidence or reason to support it.
    Hehe, my first theological debate with my devout grandfather happened when I asked him 'If God made the world, where did God come from?'

    The answer is most likely that men created God, and not the other way around.

    Which, I might add, I'm not entirely opposed to because people often need to believe that we are here for a greater purpose than to live and die. Some of the principles of Christianity are decent ideals and worth striving for. But I can also pursue those ideals without reciting bogus lines and performing rituals like a zombie with a crowd of other brain-washed people.

    To each his own... but what makes one crowd think that Baptism, or Lent, or Communion or Confession, ETC are the one and only TRUE way to worship their God appropriately?

    When it comes down to it, Christianity is still a polytheistic religion because there is no one, standard way to be a Christian, except that one must believe that Christ is the resurrected son of God. (The major initial break between Christianity and Catholicism)

    I could be mistaken, but according to Catholicism, isn't Christianity blasphemy because you are worshiping a MAN who existed in the flesh, which is supposedly a sin?.... Yet they worship Mary, who was also a person? (Sorry... a SAINT!)

    There are so many quagmires in the different religions it makes your head spin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misty_Mountain_Rose View Post
    The answer is most likely that men created God, and not the other way around.
    Yeah. And the sooner people come to grips with the existence of social constructs, the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank View Post
    Q: If god is all-knowing, then why the fuck would he have to incarnate himself as a man to know the human experience?
    For shits and giggles.
    Is not to be held accuntable for peeling errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisGuy View Post
    as god made us in his image, does it not follow that some of our characteristics are reflected in the true image which is god himself?
    Sure, which is what I was getting at with this:

    And since God "has made us all in his likeness," we all have a piece of the world-changing power of God inside of us, just as Jesus did. That is, we all have the power to reach happiness and to achieve great things for the betterment of the world around us. Hell is detachment from that power--"separation from God," as it were.
    But just because some of our characteristics can "come from God," that doesn't mean that he shares our motivations, emotions, or physical characteristics. This is simply challenging the notion that God gets angry and throws temper tantrums, or that God really is a bearded Superman in the sky.

    In other words.. I take this all metaphorically to mean something along the lines of: "God made us all in His perfect, forgiving image. And it's up to you to tap into God's characteristics that lay dormant within yourself."

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