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    Default CT Poll: Can You Change Your Sexual Orientation?

    More gas on the fire... here are the results of the current poll

    Is it possible to change your sexual orientation?

    40% -- Yes.
    19% -- No.
    22% -- It's possible but rare.
    3% -- It's possible but dangerous.
    16% -- I don't believe in sexual orientation as a construct.

    Total Votes: 1104
    What I find fascinating is that, even in the literature that CT Magazine itself publishes by homosexuals who are attempting to live a heterosexual orientation, they almost exclusively claim (i.e., I cannot recall a counter example, although I will allow that one might exist) that the orientation does not really change and that they continue to struggle with the temptation regardless of their beliefs.

    But 40% of readers give an unqualified "yes" and another 25% think it's possible but simply more rare or dangerous.
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    Bigots. :steam:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahara View Post
    Bigots. :steam:
    ha ha ha... I almost was willing to add that option to the poll when I saw this, but I didn't want to mess up the whole thing!
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    I am just kidding, I think it shows a lack of education to be honest, or at least a lack of informed education, rather than what parents, religion and peer stereoptyped attitudes teaches them.

    I think whilst there are cases of some people engaging in homosexual activities out of a lifestyle choice, I personally believe the majority of them do not have a choice in the matter and are just naturally geared towards that sexuality, which they can't change and shouldn't have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    ha ha ha... I almost was willing to add that option to the poll when I saw this, but I didn't want to mess up the whole thing!
    It felt necessary to say that for some reason lol
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    I'm kind of confused on the efforts by some Christians to get homosexuals to become attracted to the opposite sex. The Bible states that sodomy is wrong, but it doesn't state that the temptation is wrong. If a homosexual wants to refrain from engaging that compulsion for religious reasons, that's all fine and dandy, but I don't see why they can't just choose celibacy.

    that the orientation does not really change and that they continue to struggle with the temptation regardless of their beliefs.
    Technically, you could say a similar thing happens with straight people. Would any straight married man say, with all honesty, that he is never attracted to any other women more than he's attracted to his wife?
    I don't wanna!

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    Quote Originally Posted by booyalab View Post
    If a homosexual wants to refrain from engaging that compulsion for religious reasons, that's all fine and dandy, but I don't see why they can't just choose celibacy.
    Some do, I think. They just have to come to terms with themselves in the meanwhile.

    Henri Nouwen, a fairly well-known Catholic spiritual adviser, struggled with homosexuality and was celibate. I wonder if he took on that religious position partly because it helped give a socially acceptable excuse for his celibacy.

    Technically, you could say a similar thing happens with straight people. Would any straight married man say, with all honesty, that he is never attracted to any other women more than he's attracted to his wife?
    Uh huh. The desires might diminish over time if not fed regularly; but sometimes not. They continue to exist.
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    I don't know if it's possible. I've never tried to change my own orientation (and don't want to try). While I can imagine possibilities, it seems that it depends on how deeply ingrained sexual orientation is in our minds. I don't think anyone knows the answer to that, with any certainty.
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    If you wanted to live a perfect Christian life, you can't do much of anything sexually besides marrying someone of the opposite sex and sleeping with them only and masturbating without thinking of anybody. The amount of people that end up where they can do this is very few. You've gotta realize, though, that under the new covenant not sinning isn't established as terms of acceptance. If you understand that no amount of good behavior or refraining from bad behavior can save you, then you have to assume the opposite is also true. That is to say no amount of bad behavior or lack of good behavior condemns you. With only that in mind, you think that I'm saying you can go ahead and sin all you want and do whatever. You must also consider maturity and purity and other issues such as that. You will end up regreting much in this life and after this life if you stay in your immature state, and it'll end up hurting yourself and other people.

    Anyway, I'd like to say that heterosexuals are guilty of a lot of the same crap as homosexuals. I also don't really care about politics and what the gov't recognizes as marriage and what people think. I don't believe God will honor homosexual marriage as if the two same sex people aren't fornicating.

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    Sometimes I wish I could, as only homosexuals ever seem to like me quite like that... However, even though I have occasional minor curiosity, I have no drive to try it and I don't think I could ever change that.
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    Disclaimer: The above is my opinion and mine alone, it does not mean I cannot change my mind, nor does it guarantee that my comments are related to any deep-seated convictions. Take everything I say with a whole snowplow worth of salt and call me in the morning, if you can.

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