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    Quote Originally Posted by Feops View Post
    The only way to abolish standing armies would be to abolish armies period.
    No not necessarily. A militia and a standing army are not the same thing.

    Also I'd be curious why you think standing armies are in themselves a bad thing.
    "War makes thieves, and peace hangs them."

    If they're a recent invention as you say, I would reply that countries have been engaged in long, bloody wars, far before recent times.
    Standing armies as we know them today are a relatively recent invention, but the basic concept is much older. One only needs to read Book One of Machiavelli's Art of War(not to be confused with Sun Tzu's text); which deals with issues of standing armies and why they're a bad idea. Not was this written in 1520; but deal quite abit with the example of the Roman army!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    No not necessarily. A militia and a standing army are not the same thing.
    Do you see a militia as being capable of conducting modern war?

    This was the basis of my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feops View Post
    Do you see a militia as being capable of conducting modern war?
    Yes actually it can. As I argued before here, the main form of conflict in the world today is commonly called "Asymetrical warfare"(among many other names); which is well suited for militia style forces. If anything, it's standing armies that are at the disadvantage in this case.

    The whole conception here seems to be heavily based off geo-political precepts dating from the Treaty of Westphalia, which dictates that the state has a monopoly on military force. This came after the devastation brought by the Thirty Years War, which was characterised by fighting between a wild mixture of armies with no formal structure or even alliegiances at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feops View Post
    The only way to abolish standing armies would be to abolish armies period.
    Oh yeah I suppose we could do that. Of course, we would have to enforce this rule some how. I guess we could set up a special group...and they would need special training...and they would need weapons for when diplomacy fails...and...oh damn...
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