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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Yes we would. Peace exists in principle, not in the hearts of man.
    Then it's not true peace. It's just a peaceful state of affairs.

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    an army? no. well trained citizen militias? Yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
    Then it's not true peace. It's just a peaceful state of affairs.
    Well exactly. He said that the peace was the result of an agreement, not out of benevolence.

    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post
    an army? no. well trained citizen militias? Yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post
    an army? no. well trained citizen militias? Yes!
    Now you're talking.

    We also have to dig deep and figure how exactly this world peace arrangement is configured and maintained. What are its long-term geopolitical goals and whatnot? Only then can you really discuss issues related to the nature of the military force needed to enforce and maintain this arrangement.

    If we're talking about an extended Pax Romana type deal, which requires a centralized government and army - well that can last only for so long before internal divisions eat away at it and eventually cause it to collaspe. The Roman Empire(not to mention the earlier Republic) experienced quite a few civil wars, uprisings, coup d'états, etc. in its day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Well exactly. He said that the peace was the result of an agreement, not out of benevolence.



    Touche! I just looked at the title of the thread again...I suck.


    EDIT: It could have one army, as long as there were representatives from each party involved in the agreement in said army. Otherwise, you would have as many armies as nations. Each army would be responsible for it's own citizens and accountable to the other armies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
    Touche! I just looked at the title of the thread again...I suck.
    Actually, not touché - you said in a truly peaceful world we wouldn't need one, and you were right. (although I think it's more logical to believe in indigo children - sorry, prof - than true world peace...)

    In the OP case though, we would need one (and then some militias.)

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    There would still have to be some type of police force. There is no such thing as a truly peaceful world because humans are...human. Even if there wasn't an opposing "tribe" there could always be dissention from within that was intelligent but blindly rebellious for no real reason, say, in the form of a sociopath. It's nice and all to imagine that sociopaths would disappear in a truly peaceful world, but it's realistically unlikely.

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    Why Yes. It would be reserved to fight forces not of this world. Its national guard portion would be designed to strategize ways to destroy oncoming asteroids.
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    No not really. That's what "Asymmetric warfare" is all about really; confronting and defeating a more powerful enemy by exploiting its weaknesses. It's pretty much now the dominant form of warfare since the end of WWII, and has exploded with the end of the Cold War. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are contemporary examples of such.
    You are not claiming Afghanistan and Iraq are more powerful than we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into It View Post
    You are not claiming Afghanistan and Iraq are more powerful than we?
    What do you think?

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