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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    Narcissism is needing to believe one is the center of the world while lacking real confidence.
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    In other words, the ENTP speciality!
    Ouch, that's absolutely true. I can't even sarcasm-bomb it down.
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    Ironic since I was being sarcastic with that remark.

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    ^ Your comment was more insightful than you think.

    Other ENTPs just don't like to admit it.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    ^ Your comment was more insightful than you think.

    Other ENTPs just don't like to admit it.
    wrong.
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    Uh huh. Sure buddy.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    seriously... wrong.

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    seriously, seriously wrong!

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    One test for confidence vs. narcissism is not as much how self is understood, but how self compares to others. There are people who think themselves absolutely marvelous, but they think everyone else is too. I think this might be called charisma. If there is a strongly asymmetrical view that places self as inflated over others, then that is more narcissism.

    Narcissism is also an attachment disorder from the little I understand of it. I believe it can result from problems in the process of the self awareness that occurs in the early stages of infancy through childhood. People begin with only an awareness of self and gradually learn the concept of "other" and how that relates to self. Those early relationships help to establish that understanding. I believe the true narcissist has an undeveloped sense of "other". I should go look up the actual texts on this again.
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    Well, I guess I've made a mistake in assuming this is common for ENTPs...but I wasn't really taking it literally. It's kind of an exaggeration of certain ENTP attention whoring tendencies. (The consensus here seems to be that ENxPs have more of a tendency to be attention whores than other types, apparently.)

    I don't actually mean to say that most ENTPs lack any real confidence in anything, but with their ability to invent justifications for nearly anything they want to, narcissism seems more likely to occur in extreme examples of ENTP than in other types.

    Not saying that most ENTPs are narcissists, but I'd bet that a disproportionate number of narcissists are ENxPs.
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    For me the difference between having the qualities listed in the OP and a narcissist comes with their willingness to exploit and use others to reach their goals along with their exaggerated self importance and sense of entitlement.

    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld
    disproportionate number of narcissists are ENxPs.
    Most probably.

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