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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    I'm a traditional Catholic.
    You're a trad cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colmena View Post

    Except maybe Pandeism/Panentheism.
    Evolution is also a pretty big part of whatever it is I believe.

    But I like Buddhism best. Maybe one day. I generally believe a Dharmic way of thinking is most beneficial to humanity.

    It's more philosophy than 'religion', but I'm just going with the thread.
    Sometimes Pan is called the Piper. And some animals seem to remember the pipes of Pan, but most seem to forget. You might catch Him on the wind just before dawn - before He disappears into the mist.

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    The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame: Chapter 7

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    agnostic

    (and if there is a god s/he may very well hate me )
    “Oh, we're always alright. You remember that. We happen to other people.” -Terry Pratchett

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Corrected. There's nothing about contrary to religion in rationality and secularity.
    Many religionists starkly disagree with you, in both thought and deed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V Profane View Post
    Many religionists starkly disagree with you, in both thought and deed.
    That doesn't refute my basic point that there's no inherent conflict between rationality, secularity, and religious belief. Certainly some religious belief systems are more hostile to rationality and secularity, but others are less so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    You're a trad cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V Profane View Post
    Many religionists starkly disagree with you, in both thought and deed.
    It's true that Islam makes no distinction between the Mosque and the State. And so Islam rejects the secular State.

    Whereas Christianity fully accepts the secular State.

    In fact the secular State was invented to end the Wars of Religion between Christian denominations.

    And so the modern secular State rests on the Christian denominations.

    Of course vulgar Christians keep on talking as though the secular and the religious are opposites. But this is special pleading and is merely vulgar.

    However when Islamists say the secular and religion are opposites, they really mean it. And they show their sincerity by killing.

    There is nothing vulgar about Islamists.

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