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Why are atheists thought ill of?

ptgatsby

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Is a person claiming to have met God (and thus does not believe in God, but know in God) an atheist?

I'm assuming you mean someone who believed in God (ie: met and had a relationship) and then chose not to believe anymore. The answer is yes, they are an atheist.

(The flip of this is that if a person was an atheists and embraced God, then would they be Christian?)
 

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Ooh, a more serious and on topic thought.

Atheist 1: I do not like what I do not know.
Atheist 2: I do not like not knowing.

This may be key in defining which atheists are thought ill off, and which are not. o/
 

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*getting a headache*

So here is the million-dollar question:
Do apostate atheists go to heaven?

There's a special corner in Hell reserved for them, next to the people who had non-marital sex.
 

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Petrus: I'm sorry sir, I can't let you in.
Person: Why! Whyyyy!? I have been stricly christian all my life! I've never done a single thing wrong!
Petrus: Well, if you hadn't died when you did and lived on, you would have eventually broken the rules, sir. I'm sorry, sir. The all-father is all-knowing, you know. The elevator down is that way.
Person: o_O''''''''''''''''
 

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Petrus: I'm sorry sir, I can't let you in.
Person: Why! Whyyyy!? I have been stricly christian all my life! I've never done a single thing wrong!
Petrus: Well, if you hadn't died when you did and lived on, you would have eventually broken the rules, sir. I'm sorry, sir. The all-father is all-knowing, you know. The elevator down is that way.
Person: o_O''''''''''''''''

Person: i'll take the stairs, elevators were invented after my time when i committed that sin.
 

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Question...

Is a person claiming to have met God (and thus does not believe in God, but know in God) an atheist?
Can you explain that a little more? I'm deeply confused by that sentence. Would such a person believe that people can have compelling experiences that they interpret as God, but are not God? Or is it someone who thinks there is a God, but is just being ornery about it to spite God? That's the best sense I can make of the distinction.
 

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God created a place called Ultra Hell for them, where you listen to William Shatner records all day.

Wow. God! Really IS! A! Sadist!

(... and! there is! Nothing! We can do! A! Bout! It! *anguished shout*)

Can you explain that a little more? I'm deeply confused by that sentence. Would such a person believe that people can have compelling experiences that they interpret as God, but are not God? Or is it someone who thinks there is a God, but is just being ornery about it to spite God? That's the best sense I can make of the distinction.

I guess there are atheists who are like, "Nope, not God, you're not real, no matter what you do to prove it" and others who are, "F you, God" even if God is perceived by them.
 

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Can you explain that a little more? I'm deeply confused by that sentence. Would such a person believe that people can have compelling experiences that they interpret as God, but are not God? Or is it someone who thinks there is a God, but is just being ornery about it to spite God? That's the best sense I can make of the distinction.

Well, if theism states that one much be a believer in a religion. Then a theist that is confronted with the truth of religion and afterlife, with undeniable truth. He would by theistic standards, not be a theist anymore.

And thus an atheist.

(Or a nutcase to the rest of the world.)
 

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Well, if theism states that one much be a believer in a religion. Then a theist that is confronted with the truth of religion and afterlife, with undeniable truth. He would by theistic standards, not be a theist anymore.

And thus an atheist.

And thus, he would be doomed and go to Ultra Hell, or worst!
 

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Well, if theism states that one much be a believer in a religion. Then a theist that is confronted with the truth of religion and afterlife, with undeniable truth. He would by theistic standards, not be a theist anymore.

This situation is entirely theoretical -- it will never happen IRL.

There is no way to prove or disprove God.

And thus, he would be doomed and go to Ultra Hell, or worst!

I shudder to imagine what would be worse than William Shatner for eternity.

(now there's a GREAT reason to pay more for your travel plans!)
 

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This situation is entirely theoretical -- it will never happen IRL.

There is no way to prove or disprove God.

It was purely hypothetical and mostly for amusement. :p
 

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I shudder to imagine what would be worse than William Shatner for eternity.

A duet of two William Shatner singing for eternity!

[youtube=lul-Y8vSr0I]Duet of Shatners singing in cannon![/youtube]
 

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A whole choir of Shatners singing in Canon.

edit: All around you with you sitting on a 10 by 10 inch lil podium dead center.
 

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Well, if theism states that one much be a believer in a religion. Then a theist that is confronted with the truth of religion and afterlife, with undeniable truth. He would by theistic standards, not be a theist anymore.

And thus an atheist.

(Or a nutcase to the rest of the world.)
It never occurred to me that a person had to subscribe to an organized religion to be a theist. Many people might hold that position, but it doesn't make sense. What is the difference between belonging to a religion of 150 people or 15,000? What is the difference between a religion of 1 or ten million? Having other people validate one's position on what God is shouldn't define whether or not a person believes in God. And if it does, what is the magic number? Two people in a religion? Three? Forty? Fifty Thousand? It seems arbitrary to equate theism with organized religion.
 
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