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    Actually, from what I've gathered from people in academia, agnosticism - not atheism - is the most "rational" position to take.

    Atheism, particularly aggressive atheism because I have no judgement toward more passive atheists, has never struck me as especially rational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Actually, from what I've gathered from people in academia, agnosticism - not atheism - is the most "rational" position to take.

    Atheism, particularly aggressive atheism because I have no judgement toward more passive atheists, has never struck me as especially rational.
    If you say so.
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    Anyway.

    Being rational has more to do with the way you justify and explain things than your actual belief. Thus, I'd say you're confusing results and the means. The sentence you used is absolutely arbitrary, both in form and content. It's only a mere opinion, and as Socrates noticed, opinions are irrelevants.

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    But, in the same time, it is quite obvious that it is far more difficult to be rational AND religious. And despite your (arbitrary) claim, there is a very high correlation between education and atheism. But a correlation is not a proof, confusing the two may constitute a basic sophistry. And as you know, even very rational persons can have wild streams of irrationality: Just as Feyerabend pointed, it's not rational to dismiss irrationality.

    Alternatively, you can also study Gödel's incompleteness theorems, they're quite interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Actually, from what I've gathered from people in academia, agnosticism - not atheism - is the most "rational" position to take.

    Atheism, particularly aggressive atheism because I have no judgement toward more passive atheists, has never struck me as especially rational.
    I got principles that keep me on the Atheistic side instead of the agnostic side.

    They are rational principles. But ofcourse subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Actually, from what I've gathered from people in academia, agnosticism - not atheism - is the most "rational" position to take.

    Atheism, particularly aggressive atheism because I have no judgement toward more passive atheists, has never struck me as especially rational.
    Go read up on positive atheism vs. negative atheism.

    One is a position of certainty that there is no God; the other is simply a "best guess" that there is no God, due to lack of any particular belief in one.
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    Belief must come from evidence, belief cannot necessarily be forced. By the act of blind faith, you compromise the principle of believing in evidence. Religion comes in the way of the unbiased quest for knowledge, and religion will deprive you of the possibility of developing your own personal philosophy, to create your own premises of life...
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