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    One other thing is that people look as future as somthing that is 10 or 20 years ahead.
    Some people will look may be a few hundered years into the future. Those that go further are rare. But that does not change a fact that literally billions of years are ahead of us. The only real alternative to this is the destruction of reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by professor goodstain View Post
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    What if one day scientists and engineer decide to form a pact to overthrow elected government(s)?

    It could be quite hard so stop something like that if very large number of them decides one day to do this. In current world idiocracy is spreading. What is ok thing for position of political elites since it makes their job easier in certain way.

    What means that many of the people who actually know something could get quite annoyed with this kind of society. So one day they could simply decide to crash the system or take controle over it.

    I am perfectly aware that this scenario is not likely but it gets easier and easier to pull it out as technological level is growing.

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    I have one question

    How much time other people spend thinking about world in which humans don't exist ?

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    Progress can only lead to extinction until what becomes new progress changes its course to avoid extinction.

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    Humans are a disease that is progressively going to consume the earth...until it consumes us..it's our logical faite.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    Humans are a disease that is progressively going to consume the earth...until it consumes us..it's our logical faite.
    I guess we should all kill ourselves then to save our precious earth. Or maybe we should stop feeling bad about acting as we were created.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    Humans are a disease that is progressively going to consume the earth...until it consumes us..it's our logical faite.
    you can see every life form as a mean disease that consumes the poor innocent minerals. Ah, and those stars that won't let hydrogen be, who needs heavier elements anyway!
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

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    ... In theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    you can see every life form as a mean disease that consumes the poor innocent minerals. Ah, and those stars that won't let hydrogen be, who needs heavier elements anyway!

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    Hyper-individualization is one of the results of industrial "progress." This way of living is the most prominent in the United States...a country that formed it's national identity during the Industrial Revolution.

    We tend to value making it on our own in the world. We want our own car, our own house, our own things, and we want the best of all of that. This is what is isolating. This is what is destroying human interaction. Working 50+ hours a week to pay for your two SUVs, 5 TVs, and your McMansion (hate that word, but it works) is not conducive to maintaining healthy human relationships. If you are working all the time you are tired all the time. Therefore work plus tiredness means you can't spend time with friends and family.

    Isn't it ironic that in modern society we have all these "time saving devices" but we just keep piling shit on and making our lives more complex? Most of us really don't just take time to breath.

    Humans can have technology.....we just need to chill the fuck out and realize that CONSTANTLY working does not equal progress. This underlies why I strongly believe in socialist ideas.

    Also technology and progress, as much damage as they have done, have ultimately been beneficial to humankind. I mean...more people can reach their full potential (self-actualization) because they don't have to worry about hunting and growing food or how to build a shelter. We have unlocked many mysteries of the planet and the universe with new technology. We have also realized how much we don't know. How can this be bad? It's like our species is undergoing increasingly intense self-reflection culminating in self growth.

    With all this new technology we can now live better lives and we have the knowledge and capability to fix the problems. We can start cleaning up the environment, use less energy, and understand the values of community. It's almost like we can now start reaping the benefits of the industrial revolution and start erasing the major costs that came from it.

    Humans have harmed the planet but we are not a disease. A virus is just genetic material wrapped in a protein coat. Bacteria are some of the simplest living things on the planet. Humans can rationalize, we can access spirituality, we can love, and we can transform. Viruses and bacteria can't do that like humans can. We have the ability and the chance to make this planet a great place to live. Once we integrate technology, spirituality, and community into each other I think we will survive and thrive. And we would actually be beneficial to the old Earth.

    Either we get to that stage or we all probably die. Which will it be?
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