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    If we knew exactly when life began then abortion wouldn't be such a hot topic.

    *And now that it's been brought up I hope this doesn't turn into another useless debate on abortion.

    I have to ask... out of sheer dumb, morbid curiousity...
    was it.. like.. moving around.. in the trash can??
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    Yeah, I thought of that after I posted. Glad you steered it back, Shaula.

    The thought does arise, nonetheless, but I think the scope of the OP was larger than simply human life.

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    Life is Potential.

    ... the potential to 'be' or not to 'be'.

    It's what we make for ourselves, and we leave behind (I guess) - a way of using our minds to organize and plan, and of course part of it is to understand the conventions to some degree.

    ... as for the 'abortion' thing - hmm, yes it is quite an obstructive topic...

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    Default What is the purpose of life?

    To maintain life.

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    I can only consider a thing alive if that thing brings me outside of myself and allows me to see the world from behind its eyes. That's the first condition. The second condition is that when I fully return to myself, it must still seem reasonable and not fanciful to consider that thing conscious. This is an arbitrary judgment, of course. In a more objective sense, everything I empathize with, from literary characters to the people on the street, are given life through my act of empathy.
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    What the hell does it matter, so long as you and I agree on the definition of the word in the particular circumstances in which it is used. Biologists often argue over whether viruses should be considered alive. To me, this is sooooooooo stupid so utterly stupid it infuriates me. I'm having my Fe moment. FUCK all of you damn stupid people who think a word has a particular definition, should have a particular definition, and argue over that definition. It's either stupidity or an attempt to attach connotations to particular people, ideas, or situations that aren't warranted. Manipulation I say... manipulation!

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    Don't Biologists has a somewhat universal definition for life, or am I mistaken about this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    Don't Biologists has a somewhat universal definition for life, or am I mistaken about this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    Don't Biologists has a somewhat universal definition for life, or am I mistaken about this?
    Did you read the thread, dear sir? Esp. the OP?

    Or, DARE TO QUESTION ME?!!!



    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    {there is no one agreed-upon definition as of yet, btw}
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    Using the above list, a question: Are viruses alive?
    ....but, yeah, it'd be interesting to even debate about why the definition of life is presently concrete v. debatable.

    So....welcome....

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    Did you read the thread, dear sir? Esp. the OP?

    Or, DARE TO QUESTION ME?!!!



    ....but, yeah, it'd be interesting to even debate about why the definition of life is presently concrete v. debatable.

    So....welcome....

    Thoughts?
    Heh, I suppose I was confused, because this ended up in the philosophy section. It seems like somewhat of a mundane question to me, but here is my viewpoint.

    I'm not a biologist, but mathematicians have quite a bit of practice with explicitly stating definitions. The purpose of a good definition is to help provide a proper framework for discussion of relevant topics. In this case Biology is the study of life. Therefore if biologists want to study viruses, then it would be useful for them to define viruses as a form of life.
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